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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:40:11 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 17:26:52 2013.

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Closest enough characterization to what we do since the IRS doesn't have a category for "operating system manufacturers" and thus we're stuck being a "software vendor" ... :)

We handle our "overseas expenses" by letting contractors do it. They ship us our piece, they keep theirs and expense same locally. All good.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 17:43:22 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:37:12 2013.

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But the edits made to the talking points clearly indicate that they did know it was an Al Qaeda attack.

In fact, they actually changed (paraphrasing) "We believe it was a spontaneous attack..." to "Currently available information suggests it was a spontaneous attack..."

There is no reason to make that change unless you don't actually believe it was a spontaneous attack, but want people to believe it was. They are parsing words for the purpose of getting people to believe something that they don't believe themselves. (Memories of "It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is")

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:51:55 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 17:43:22 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I've worked in government, and so I have an idea of what all that was like having participated in lesser, but similar "crisis management" things. What I take from all that was the assembly of a camel without benefit of a sausage press. Wading through all sorts of preliminary stuff, ready to write an executive summary, when in pops someone from another department yelling, "You can't say THAT!"

There's a reason why I'm giving that piece of it some slack. You might also forget that all of this started in the final weeks of an election campaign and the same republican talking points that made no difference then are still making the rounds with an important difference this time around ... they've been SHOWN to be completely false, doctored, and made up now that the actual documents have been released.

Strongly urge you to research up ... you're not helping your side by continuing to spout what has already been demonstrated to be manufactured lies.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 17:55:22 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 16:33:40 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Failed to rescue with what?

By who?





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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:56:20 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 17:55:22 2013.

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Oh, you're going to have a busy visit. :)

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:00:57 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:51:55 2013.

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Strongly urge you to research up ... you're not helping your side by continuing to spout what has already been demonstrated to be manufactured lies.

Cut through all the BS.

Three facts.

1. They knew it was terrorism before the talking points went out.

2. They chose to imply that it was a "spontaneous attack"

3. Rice blamed the YouTube video.

If you want to read up on something, read up on what Bob Woodward has to say about all this. He's a journalist from back when journalists were journalists -- and I think he may have uncovered a scandal or two in his day...


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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 18:02:14 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:00:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you see the videos I posted of Hillary?

She was blaming the video and worse, apologizing for it.

The entire administration conspired for some reason, to blame the video, knowing it had nothing to do with the attacks.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:03:13 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 17:55:22 2013.

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If you believe they couldn't have rescued him, go ahead and delete that from my sentence. Doesn't change any of the basic facts.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 18:04:59 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:03:13 2013.

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I think in coming weeks or months we'll hear from more people willing to talk about Benghazi and what should have been to try and save the America lives.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:05:29 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 18:02:14 2013.

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For some reason?

You know the reason. Of course, Al would rather argue that the administration is incompetent rather than say they were being blatantly political.

A very strange way to support the administration.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 18:05:34 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:00:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah yeah ... repeating the same buzzwords doesn't make it stick any better. So how did all those other "spontaneous attacks" work out in all those other places? They threw things, set some fires, set off some car bombs too.

That Al Qaeda sympathizers took advantage of the situation doesn't make the original cover not have happened. Live reports on Jazeera DID show protests over the video in Benghazi before the attack itself came down. I was watching it. So what you're claiming to be bullshit isn't entirely bullshit. Like I said before, were it NOT for that, I'm sure the Blackwater guys would have been shooting with the crowd farther away.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:06:02 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 15:46:09 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
and least my President doesn't smile when Americans die in the line of duty.




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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:09:43 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:06:02 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nah, OUR President just allows it to be turned into a political football.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 18:12:13 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:09:43 2013.

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Yep! :)


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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:13:05 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 15:45:19 2013.

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If your parents or grandparents are from a country that easily gives citizenship to descendants, get dual citizenship and open accounts under that nationality.

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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:17:05 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 17:15:56 2013.

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Incorporate in Luxembourg if feasible.



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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:18:11 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:13:05 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That only works if you plan on operating illegally.

Once you report the account to the IRS, the IRS will contact the bank asking for a variety of information on your accounts. This will expose you as a "US Person" and you will be shown the exit.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by AlM on Fri May 17 18:18:14 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:05:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Where did I say I was supporting the administration? Read what I wrote, not what it might seem I've written after a 2-second glance.



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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 18:19:12 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 18:17:05 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nah ... last thing we want to do is play with that VAT crap. Same reason why we have a contractor here, with all those sales tax calculations in those states that collect them from their residents, Minnesota and California. It's worth somebody else doing that.

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Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri May 17 20:21:02 2013, in response to Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?, posted by Fred G on Fri May 17 15:21:19 2013.

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I stopped watching Fox locally (Channel 45 in Baltimore) about 10 years ago. What Fox45 has now I'm not the least bit interested.

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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 22:25:17 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 18:05:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
For some reason?

Yeah. I know. The goal of the administration has been to make white conservative types and those worried about Islamic terror seem like dangerous bigot.

Of course, Al

Um. Reading comprehension. You didn't read the article.



A very strange way to support the administration.

The harder the evidence against the administration, the strong the support will be from people like Al.


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Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?)

Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 18 18:02:23 2013, in response to Re: Why blame the YouTube video? (Re: So what's left of the Benghazi Scandal?), posted by Charles G on Fri May 17 16:50:22 2013.

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Earth..birthplace of the human race..more or less.

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