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LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance")

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013

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Yahoo News/TakePart.com

L.A. Schools: We Won’t Suspend Kids For Mouthing Off Anymore

TakePart.com | May 15, 2013 6:36 PM
In a groundbreaking resolution, the Los Angeles Unified District school board voted Tuesday to ban suspensions for “willful defiance,” making it the first district in the state to do so.

This decision will stop suspensions for a variety of misbehaviors—anything from mouthing off to teachers, eating food in the classroom, or violating the school dress code—which critics have maintained are too broad and arbitrarily enforced. Instead, starting next year, principals will install alternative disciplinary measures while students remain in school.

The ban in LAUSD, the second largest school district in the country, marks a major shift from a zero-tolerance policy for minor infractions.

“We know that taking kids out of school is not an effective solution for dealing with students who have behavioral issues,” said Tonna Onyendu, an organizer with the Liberty Hill Foundation, a nonprofit group that helped craft the proposal for LAUSD. “What’s worse,” he said, “is it leads to racial profiling in the classroom.”

Data collected by the U.S. Department of Education from schools around the nation shows that the zero-tolerance approach to school discipline has a discriminatory effect. African-American students are suspended from school more than three times as often as white students across all grade levels.

In LAUSD, African-American children make up nine percent of the student body, but they account for 26 percent of all suspensions, nearly half of which are for willful defiance offenses.

Seattle and New York City school districts faced civil rights investigations by the U.S. Department of Education for an alarming rise in suspension rates in recent years, particularly among African-American and Latino boys.

New York City saw more than a 130 percent increase in suspensions from the 2002-2003 school year to the 2010-11 school year, when schools came under mayoral control.

By eliminating the willful defiance category, LAUSD expects a drastic cut in suspension rates. That would continue an aggressive campaign by Superintendent John Deasy, who has already slashed the districtwide suspension by two-thirds since taking the helm last year.

But school administrators anticipate several problems with the ban.

Judith Perez, president of the Associated Administrators of Los Angeles, said the new rule places an additional burden on overworked school principals, who are the final authority on suspensions.

“The fact is, to have meaningful follow up with students, to have effective intervention support for kids, that requires additional training and support to schools and additional personnel to do it right.”

In other words, that requires money, and the district has yet to outline a budget for the development or implementation of new programs.

Currently in LAUSD, the school personnel-to-students ratio is at an all-time high. Public elementary schools must have more than 1,150 students before an assistant principal is assigned. Ideally, said Perez, there should be one for every 700 students. She calls the counselor ratio “horrendous.” The average high school counselor is responsible for 500 students.

“The district needs to go beyond just saying, ‘You can’t do this anymore.’ Instead, they need to say, ‘Here are new guidelines and here are the resources to enable you to do it.’ ”

The details of the policy shift have yet to be worked out, but the hope with the ban is to keep kids in school and prevent them from heading down the wrong path.

There have been multiple studies done that have found strong links between suspensions rates and poor academic performance, low graduation rates, and run-ins with the criminal justice system. An Indiana University study determined that a school’s “adherence to zero tolerance discipline is second only to poverty as a predictor of students’ poor performance on standardized tests.”

Researchers at the University of Kentucky found that “a history of suspension from school accelerates youths’ progress along a pathway to delinquency and life-long failure.” Additionally, throughout the state, “it is unusual to find a youthful offender among the state’s population of incarcerated youth who has not been suspended from school.”

In an effort to prevent kids from dropping out and ending up behind bars, one East Los Angeles school decided to do away with suspensions altogether. This was in 2009 when test scores at Garfield High School were so low and the dropout rate so high, that the school was on the verge of a district takeover.

“We looked at the data and the studies and we knew this was something that was supposed to work,” said Assistant Principal Rose Ann Ruiz.

It was a huge undertaking for a school with 2,600 students and with no additional funds from the district. Instead, said Ruiz, faculty, students, and community groups signed “Promise Letters” to do whatever was necessary to turn the school around.

That meant working extra long hours. Professional development training took place after school. Weekends were spent creating behavior intervention plans specific to students.

It also meant making a complete cultural shift that started with training teachers to respond differently when confronted with disruptive students in the classroom. Rather than recommend suspension for a student who shows up without a pencil—something that happened often—teachers were trained to find more productive solutions without engaging in a power struggle.

Now, several interventions—including parent conferences, meeting with the school counselor, and even a social-emotional support specialist—take place before a chronically disruptive student lands in front of the dean of discipline.

In the three years following the ban on suspensions at Garfield, API scores went up by 114 points.

“I can’t say it was easy and it took a lot, a lot, a lot, of time,” said Ruiz, “but I can say the results have paid off.”

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 20:21:57 2013, in response to LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance"), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013.

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. More, cut and paste, rantings from another deluded shithead. You and doucheAAA should get a room.

What a couple of fucktards. But, you do amuse.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:34:35 2013, in response to LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance"), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013.

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Awesome. Kids with behavioral problems can't be disciplined.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 20:39:26 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:34:35 2013.

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Been that way for a long time now, or there wouldn't be a subchat today. :)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:39:50 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:34:35 2013.

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Sure they can. But what it takes is stuff that liberals get all queasy about.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 20:41:57 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:39:50 2013.

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I rest my case. :)

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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:44:30 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 20:39:26 2013.

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otchat is special ed.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 20:48:15 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:44:30 2013.

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Nah ... that's the main board. Over here, it's REALLY special ed with the shortest bus ever made. :)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:51:35 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:39:50 2013.

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in twenty years, these kids will be the ones going around making sure you don't have a single person living in a 2BR while family of four lives in a 1BR. These kids will enforce new fairness housing rules.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 21:14:41 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 20:48:15 2013.

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What a cute little bus. Reminds me of the "tart cart" that used to take me home from the asylum. 8-)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 21:29:33 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 21:14:41 2013.

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Yeah, north of Fordham you don't need as many seats. :)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 21:49:12 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 21:29:33 2013.

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Tis true. We usually road on the roof. 8-)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 21:49:51 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 21:29:33 2013.

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Tis true. We usually rode on the roof. 8-)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 15 21:53:10 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 21:49:12 2013.

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Makes it a whole lot easier to spot the moon and howl at it. All of them! :)

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu May 16 05:34:36 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 15 20:21:57 2013.

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+1

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by vfrt on Thu May 16 10:03:54 2013, in response to LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance"), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013.

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Hilarious! The LAUSD has caved in to the animals. Does any learning take place or are the schools just free food and condom dispensaries?

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by daNd124 on Thu May 16 10:17:20 2013, in response to LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance"), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013.

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finally the push against treating kids like prisoners has begun.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 16 13:04:52 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by daNd124 on Thu May 16 10:17:20 2013.

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+1

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 16 13:05:22 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:51:35 2013.

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If they live twenty years from now.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 16 13:07:30 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by vfrt on Thu May 16 10:03:54 2013.

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How dare they do that. All the real commies know that you don't actually skip to the anarchy part without doing the totalitarian socialism part first . . .

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Posted by daNd124 on Thu May 16 13:12:17 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 16 13:07:30 2013.

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lol

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Posted by daNd124 on Thu May 16 13:18:54 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 15 20:34:35 2013.

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you still think it's like it was when you were in school in the 1980s.

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Posted by Easy on Thu May 16 23:31:26 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by daNd124 on Thu May 16 13:18:54 2013.

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This is what it's like in LA

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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 16 23:56:35 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 16 13:04:52 2013.

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Why didn't you go to your zone high school in Brooklyn?

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 16 23:57:52 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Thu May 16 23:31:26 2013.

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did you lift weights this week?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 16 23:59:34 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 16 23:56:35 2013.

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Why should I have?

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 00:03:18 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 16 23:59:34 2013.

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To promote racial harmony?

Going all the way to Manhattan every day to avoid your local zone HS is a form of racism. You could have been put in AP classes at your zone.

You went in part to avoid the kids who need to be suspended.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 17 00:04:01 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 00:03:18 2013.

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I didn't take any AP classes.

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:08:29 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 16 23:57:52 2013.

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Of course. But only on Tuesday so far. I gave blood yesterday and couldn't work out. Today was my light day using bands.

Down to 189 lbs btw. I'm pretty much at my original target, but I still want to lose 10-15 more.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 00:14:21 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 16 23:59:34 2013.

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I think he's asking you to re-enroll there today. :)

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Posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:19:52 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Thu May 16 23:31:26 2013.

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the don't have a citation at the moment but even in inner city schools kids behave much better than they did 30 years ago.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:22:00 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:19:52 2013.

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My family members that are teachers disagree.

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Posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:27:05 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:22:00 2013.

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in what way are they worse than they were 30 years ago? all the statistics say the kids are behaving better.

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:34:03 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:27:05 2013.

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In the way that we're discussing in this thread. Unruly behavior. What behavior statistics are you looking at?

Oh, and btw education statistics can be misleading because school districts continue to dumb down the curriculum so that the ever increasing numbersof below average kids have a shot at graduating.

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Posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:51:32 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:34:03 2013.

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In the way that we're discussing in this thread. Unruly behavior.

do they say it's actually worse than it was 30 years ago? were they even teaching 30 years ago?

Unruly behavior. What behavior statistics are you looking at?

http://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/yrbs/pdf/us_summary_all_trend_yrbs.pdf

Oh, and btw education statistics can be misleading because school districts continue to dumb down the curriculum so that the ever increasing numbersof below average kids have a shot at graduating.

sat scores are also rising

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 01:42:24 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 00:51:32 2013.

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No, they were students 30 years ago.

Rising? SAT scores were adjusted to keep the average at 1,000. link

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 01:46:57 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:08:29 2013.

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189 is perfect.

I can't understand why you would want to lose more.

At your height, that's a great weight.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 01:49:44 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:22:00 2013.

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there is a case here in Florida, up in Jacksonville, that touches on issues in this article.

black female brutally beats up a white female.

it's recorded of course.

girl is arrested.

a black male judge suspends her from district schools and I think issues a restraining order.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri May 17 01:51:15 2013, in response to LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. ("willful defiance"), posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 15 20:12:12 2013.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:01:38 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 01:46:57 2013.

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Just the look that I want. I'm probably around 20% bodyfat and I want to get to less than 15%. Maybe 12%.

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:07:07 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 01:49:44 2013.

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It's amazing how disciplinary problems get so much more attention when there's a black-white dynamic.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:07:45 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:01:38 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
at your height at 189 you gotta be closer to 15%.

that is a great weight.

if you want to lower your BMI, stick to weights and diet.

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/

Charles Poliquin has tons of info on how and why weights will change your BMI without steady-state cardio on a bike or treadmill.

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Posted by daNd124 on Fri May 17 02:09:07 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 01:42:24 2013.

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after adjusting past score, current scores are higher and a higher percentage of students are taking the test.

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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:11:38 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:07:07 2013.

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well, i think the cell phones make the problem more known.

but don't forget the Lakeland case from four or five years ago.

remember that?

bunch of white females beat the hell out of a white girl in a house. that was a national story.

if a white female did the beat down on a black female, it would be a national story. but as Jayman would point out, it was the usual black on white violence so it's only local. it's what most white parents fear.

black on black would not be a story.

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:11:54 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:07:45 2013.

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I had my body fat tested and at 200 I was 23%. But I look quite a bit better at 189 than 200. I'm guessing that 180 will be just as dramatic a change.

As far as weights, I don't really like lifting weights. I do it because I need to, but I don't enjoy it. You know how you always have to lift that little bit extra to see improvement? I f'in hate that!

But I like running on the treadmill. I have greatly increased my endurance in just a few weeks after 6 months of jogging outside with no improvement.

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Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:15:25 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:11:38 2013.

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Yeah, I remember the girl being attacked in the house. And others outside. Girls and boys were attacking other kids just to get it on video.

Does it seem to you that the average black girl or boy can easily beat the average white boy or girl in a fight?

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:16:20 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:11:54 2013.

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if you just lift and diet, your would weigh 200 and have 15% BMI.

squats
bench press
romanian deadlift

2x a week and you'll see a difference.

I remember when I was a kid, the gym did not have cardio equipment. Just iron. And everyone was in good shape. Now it's insane how cluttered the gyms are with useless cardio junk.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:22:12 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:16:20 2013.

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I would need a lot more muscle mass to be 15% and 200 pounds. I don't think that would be sustainable given that I hate lifting. Plus that's not really the look that I want.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 17 02:24:28 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 02:22:12 2013.

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You can do it if you do squats and RDL's. You won't doing arm curls and raises.

those exercises jack up metabolism.

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Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance'')

Posted by SMAZ on Fri May 17 02:24:57 2013, in response to Re: LA Unified School District banning suspensions for mouthing off, etc. (''willful defiance''), posted by Easy on Fri May 17 00:22:00 2013.

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Your family would have this kid suspended for "mouthing off"?

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