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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 7 19:51:42 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 7 18:59:54 2013.

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SMAZ is unbeatable in an argument

You love making yourself look like a wuss this week, eh.

Just remind him of the current mayor of Rome.



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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 20:12:35 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 7 19:49:38 2013.

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Paranoid, AND delusional!

Not surprising, considering who started this thread to begin with!

Too many left-wingers here!

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 7 20:14:02 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 20:12:35 2013.

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It's a Left-wing country so one must expect many here. Especially one where most posters are from northeast and like trains.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 20:43:29 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 7 20:14:02 2013.

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Well, it's more like FAR left, for some up here...

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 20:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 20:43:29 2013.

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Support of universal background checks is not at all a leftist position.



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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Feb 7 21:03:11 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 7 10:18:15 2013.

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Problem solved ... they don't read. The butthurt meter though is off the scale today - keep up the excellent work! :)

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 21:03:56 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Feb 7 20:14:02 2013.

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Their fallback (face saving) position is more comprehensive background checks but that's not the goal. They want the absolute assault weapons ban as their big step towards neutering the 2nd amendment. However, in most of the deadly mass shootings, the common thread was not the weapon used but the mental stability of the shooter. Prior to Sandy Hook;

The 2 DC Snipers used Bushmaster 223s and 13 were killed

The Aurora Col. Theater shooter used 4 weapons including a .223 assault rifle, 2 Glock 40s and a 12 Ga. Remington Shotgun. 12 were killed

In Columbine a 10 shot carbine was one of 4 guns used. The others were a Tec-DC9, 2 sawed off shotguns and an assortment of kniives. 13 died

In Tucson a Glock 9 was used & there were 6 deaths.

At Ft. Hood, 2 private weapons, a FN 5.7 and a .357 revolver were used. No military issued weapons were used. 13 died.

And at Va. Tech, a Glock 19 and a Walther P22 were used, causing 32 deaths

Again, in the 3 of these 6 incidents, no assault rifles were used and yet 51 people died. Perhaps we should focus on the mental stability of the shooter and not the type of gun they used.




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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 21:48:34 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 16:22:15 2013.

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I answered your question in detail. It's your own fault the answer went over your head.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 21:50:14 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 21:03:56 2013.

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Some incidents can't be prevented without banning guns completely, which would be unconscionable (let alone unconstitutional).

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 7 21:55:48 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 21:50:14 2013.

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So why not seek to ban small, semi-automatic hand guns? Seems to me the data could just as easily support that position. The fact is that the goal is to ban assault rifles regardless of what the facts are.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 22:15:27 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 21:48:34 2013.

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That wasn't an answer, but remember that when somebody says "There oughta be a law!" Maybe there isn't!

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 22:16:42 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 22:15:27 2013.

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It was an answer to your simplistic and ignorant argument.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 22:23:01 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 22:16:42 2013.

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Ignorant is a term, that firmly describes yourself.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 23:43:07 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 22:23:01 2013.

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I am not a term.

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Re: Tonight in Smothered Pork Chops

Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Feb 7 23:52:45 2013, in response to Re: Tonight in Smothered Pork Chops, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 7 16:33:44 2013.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 8 00:11:00 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 16:28:30 2013.

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A good solution is much much better than the status quo. Of course,we should all want to see some concrete controls on guns, something that would eliminate the chances of someone that's mentally ill getting an assault rifle and shooting up a theater,a school, a university, wherever. We should all want to see accidents and suicides come down in number,that requires mandatory education and rules for gun storage in the home....such as mandatory safes, trigger locks, what works best. Over time it would be good to see this happen, ther eis nothing wrong with responsible gun ownership. Problem is getting all gun owners to be responsible.....which would means fewer guns obtained in burglaries and fewer getting on the street, be they stolen or purchased through a straw man/gun runner.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 8 00:17:08 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 7 21:50:14 2013.

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Most important would be to ban large magazines. That's a common thread for all these as well. Civilians do not need more than 6-7 bullets to defend themselves, and no hunter needs more either.

Banning assault rifles would do more to inhibit the thought of committing these heinous crimes and that makes it a perfectly valid instrument in fighting gun violence. We did see a decline in shooting massacres during the assault weapons ban. Do recall how many guns the Columbine shooters had.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 09:32:35 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Feb 7 19:09:43 2013.

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The only way I could ever become psychologically scarred would be if Rizzo's Fine Pizza were to one day shut down.



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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 09:34:13 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 7 19:51:42 2013.

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I would like to remind YOU that one of your own is Mayor of Rome.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 09:57:31 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 7 19:16:58 2013.

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You're the only very pro-gun person here that one can actually have a decent argument with. :)

yes they are very enjoyable.

It's why I come here.

What's funny is that I think there are only 3 people here who actually would like to see DC v Heller overturned.

just off the top of my head there are bingbong, WillD, JayZeeBMT, streetcarman1.



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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by WillD on Fri Feb 8 10:13:36 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by mcorivervsaf on Thu Feb 7 16:37:16 2013.

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So now you DO want criminals to have guns?

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by WillD on Fri Feb 8 10:34:51 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 09:57:31 2013.

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You can count me out of your very Luch-ish list. I don't see the need for Heller to be overturned right now. For the time being I'd be fine seeing how the illegal gun trafficking problem holds up when we have universal background checks, total gun registry, and an ATF that isn't hamstrung by NRA written riders attached to spending bills. If those measures can cut down on the number of illegal dealers, straw purchasers, and other loopholes for criminals to obtain guns and thus reduce the number of guns on the street then there's no need to overturn Heller.

But then DC's firearms laws were written in part out of frustration at federal indifference to the plight of cities who find their streets at the mercy of whatever state has the most permissive firearms laws. If background checks and ATF reforms had been mandated at the Federal level, and proven to work, there never would have been a need for DC's anti-firearm laws.

In the unlikely event universal background checks and reforms to the ATF do not fix our problem then other measures would have to be undertaken. But it'd remain to be seen if that'd take the form of the NRA's million man standing rent-a-cop army in every public place, or a supreme court case to overturn Heller. We certainly know the latter would be the most affordable alternative, which is where those "insurance"/fee proposals come from.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 10:49:10 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by WillD on Fri Feb 8 10:34:51 2013.

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You can count me out of your very Luch-ish list. I don't see the need for Heller to be overturned right now.

What does that mean?

So are you in or are you out?

Was I right or was I wrong?

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Fri Feb 8 10:54:14 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by WillD on Fri Feb 8 10:13:36 2013.

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Did I indicate that, or are you just fishing?

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Re: Today in Italian Sausage Sandwiches

Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Feb 8 12:18:59 2013, in response to Re: Today in Italian Sausage Sandwiches, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Feb 7 17:13:10 2013.

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OH DEAR GOD,THIS MAN NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP!


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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 8 12:22:28 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 8, 2013

Please respond topically.....you have all had enough specious fun yesterday. There IS a point to this.

Rep Jim Langevins,a gun victim himself (read the article) is seeking to fill the gallery with gun victims for the State of the Union next week. He is succeeding somewhat, at least among his Democratic colleagues. It appears that no republican is cooperating with this wonderful, timely idea.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 8 15:18:00 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 8 12:22:28 2013.

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My guess is that with all of those "victims" the republicans are at the range to sharpen their skills, to avoid future victims.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 8 16:00:47 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 8 15:18:00 2013.

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That's not how it happens. You're living a delusional NRA hypetasy.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 11:54:55 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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FEb 9, 2013

Seems that those favoring gun control are far better at elucidating their opinion aa well.


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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 9 12:43:19 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 8 09:32:35 2013.

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Rizzo's is just not what is was. Too many idiots in the pizza business. Too many trying to make a fast dollar.

Rosa's is good. It's no 69th. Umberto's of New Hyde Park is excellent.

For pasta, I like Antoni Ravioli but if you know of a good fresh pasta house in Astoria I'll listen. Thanks.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 9 12:46:39 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by SMAZ on Thu Feb 7 18:00:10 2013.

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Beautiful photo.

Rich in magnesium and amino acids.

Quinoa is a superfood.

But thanks for attacking. Any mention of quinoa is an attack against me.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 9 13:20:11 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 9 12:43:19 2013.

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TEDDY`S,at 747 MECHAM AVE IN ELMONT,ABOUT 3 BLOCKS NORTH OF DUTCH B`WAY HAS THE 2ND BEST PIZZA I,VE EVER TASTED.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 13:51:18 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 9 13:20:11 2013.

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Meacham Ave. I grew up in Elmont.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 9 14:33:53 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 13:51:18 2013.

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didja eat at teddys?

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 15:15:27 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 9 14:33:53 2013.

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Not sure if remember the place AS Teddy's. Long time ago. Haven't been to Elmont in nearly 30 years now.....thanks to Google I can see how it looks now and I'l pass.

Even Wal-Cliffe is condos now. Used to be a swimming pool and roller rink. Right by Clara Carlson on Washington Blvd,

Is that TSS still there? Used to be Great Eastern, I remember when I was very young it was a WW2 memorial billboard and potato field behind it. That goes back to the early 60s. They apparently either tore down Alva T Stanforth and moved the library there or converted it.

Surprised to see someone that even knows what Elmont IS, much less anything more about it. It's like an invisible village...of 30,000.

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Re: Today in Quinoa

Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Feb 9 17:23:46 2013, in response to Re: Today in Quinoa, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 15:15:27 2013.

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TSS is gone about 30 years.i,m a rosedale guy by way of south jamaica.moved to rosedale in 1962.teddys alwas was & will be teddys,since about 1948.had a pie there thrs.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Feb 10 16:01:21 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 9 11:54:55 2013.

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I see lots of guns. Makes us safer.

And nope, none of them are mine nor am I talking about being at home, I mean outside.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 11 13:03:45 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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< a href="http://nocera.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/the-gun-report-february-11-2013/">Feb 11,2013

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 11 13:04:27 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 11,2013

Apologies for the linking error.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Wed Feb 13 13:54:32 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 13, 2013

Missed yesterday, due to personal reasons:

Feb 12, 2013

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Thu Feb 14 11:09:34 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 14, 2013

There is also an excellent article about suicide risk among gun owning populations. In this case a Wyoming family that treated guns so matter of factly they didn't lock them away (didn't even own a safe!) had their seemingly normal healthy 17 yr old son kill himself, a spontaneous idea after punishment for a minor indiscretion.

People that treat guns as anything but a lethal weapon need help to get the point across that hey are first and foremost lethal weapons, so they act accordingly and lock their guns away. Proof that one can safely store weapons should be mandatory.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:10:58 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 15,2013

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:16:56 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:10:58 2013.

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Still waiting for you to explain this?





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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:17:35 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:16:56 2013.

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Keep waiting. This is a gun thread.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:19:41 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:17:35 2013.

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Yes, I think that we all understand what that means. Thank you for your honesty.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:27:55 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:19:41 2013.

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Doesn't mean a thing beyond you're not getting an answer here. Don't read anything into it beyond the actual words.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:30:19 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:27:55 2013.

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You've proven my point again. 6 for 6.

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 11:32:52 2013, in response to Re: Today in Guns, posted by Train Dude on Fri Feb 15 11:30:19 2013.

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You have to have a point to make before anything can be proven.



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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 16 15:29:18 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Special Wane LaPierre edition

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Re: Today in Guns

Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 18 11:32:05 2013, in response to Today in Guns, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 2 18:39:56 2013.

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Feb 18,2013

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