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Re: OP-ED: What the Education Establishment keep ignoring about Finland's school success

Posted by JayMan on Thu Jan 5 10:08:16 2012, in response to Re: OP-ED: What the Education Establishment keep ignoring about Finland's school success, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Jan 5 00:11:25 2012.

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>>>Polices that incentivize voluntary sterilization of low-IQ individuals might actually be too expensive to implement (or they may not be, I haven't done the math)

...which would be advantageous how, relative to other solutions? What's your cutoff for low IQ, anyhow?


If I were to implement this sort of program, I wouldn't use an IQ cutoff per se, I'd use a success cutoff. Not all low-IQ people are unsuccessful nor are all high-IQ people successful (since there's more to success than IQ). If a person is a high-school dropout, has little record of decent employment, and has been a receiver of welfare for a long time (a few years say), I'd make them eligible for a one-time payment of $10,000 in exchange for undergoing sterilization. That doesn't sound exorbitantly expensive (less than a year's welfare payment) and reduces the number of future welfare recipients.

Or for men with little job prospects or education but who owe tons of child support for armies of illegitimate children, I'd forgive his debt and offer say $5,000 for them to undergo sterilization. Or for any person with a criminal record, especially for violent crime, they could be offered $2,000 and a reduced sentence to undergo sterilization. This would apply to people of all races (even some races will be more represented than others as per IQ).

And would the risk of discounting the presence of other positive traits or attributes in such people outweigh the benefits of improving education? Methinks not.

Positive traits such as? One can argue that the fact that many European countries import foreign (and lower IQ) labor to do their grunt work is a sign that such individuals are needed, but not all of them do. Japan has virtually zero immigration and their society functions just fine.

I suppose you'll favor replacing standardized tests with age-adjusted subject/IQ tests?

Yes, I would do away with standardized tests and I would certainly end making teacher and school funding dependent on such tests, owing to IQ. I'd be in favor of making IQ testing used earlier to help identify gifted students in otherwise under-performing populations and get them out of there earlier. Kinda like Bronx Science and the like, but at the middle school level.

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