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Posted by JayMan on Thu Jan 5 15:04:27 2012, in response to Re: OP-ED: What the Education Establishment keep ignoring about Finland's school success, posted by Concourse Express on Thu Jan 5 14:44:44 2012. The problem I have with sterilization as a solution is that it counts on a person's future children also inheriting the same low IQ/unmotivated/unsuccessful outlook as the person in question. Even if the probability that one's children will live a meager life is increased by the meager life of the potential parent, you still discount the possibility that such children may actually have a higher IQ and/or success in life.Considering the high heritability of IQ, yeah I'd rather play the odds. The next great genius is extremely unlikely to come from someone who would be offered this program. In case 1 (dude with "armies of illegitimate children"), sterilization may stop him from having kids but it won't stop him from being promiscuous; he and/or his sex partners could still catch STDs, which leads to health care costs either they and/or the taxpayers have to foot. Which are far cheaper than the whole other generation he would spawn who would do much the same. Moreover, if he owes lots of child support, that $5,000 may not be enough of an incentive, which potentially eats away at any savings. He would be relieved from having to pay child support. I may sound prudish for saying this, but I'm gonna say it anyway: TEMPERANCE (i.e. abstinence, self-control) should be encouraged ... This might help abate the scenario in case 1, but ultimately such depends on one's ability to control his/her impulses. Unfortunately, impulsivity and poor foresight are themselves correlates of low IQ. You face a poor chance of encouraging such behavior from the ones you'd want to reach most, as the current situation demonstrates. In a discourse on methods of contraception and their efficacy rates, both the rates in the lab and in the field should be discussed so that the true risks of sexual activity can be elucidated (and cement the FACT that abstinence remains the ONLY guaran-damn-teed way to avoid pregnancy; Discourse? Hehe, are you forgetting what LOW IQ means? For case 2 (violent offenders), what if the offender has a high IQ? Will sterilization still be an option in a plea bargain? Fuck 'em. Yes, it would still be an option to violent offenders regardless of IQ. I would argue violent high-IQ individuals are of greater concern since they are potentially much more dangerous. I still have reservations because choosing to sterilize may not motivate him to stop committing crimes if he's released Probably wouldn't. That's what tough jail sentences are for. and you still have to contend with the possibility that the (future) children will not make the same mistakes the parent(s) did. There's always a possibility, but it's always better to play the odds. A violent, high-IQ criminal is probably who we'd least want to reproduce. |
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