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Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 20:05:21 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu May 8 17:13:32 2014. How about Jewish in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s? Care to try that one?Nazi Germany? Jewish/black is kind of a tossup. Overall, I'd probably rather be Jewish since that's (a) easier to hide and (b) easier to change if need be. Right, and this is why I had to provide all sorts of information to any Jewish community I wished to visit while traveling... Seriously? Where, exactly, were you traveling? ...and then be subject to passport inspections, body inspections, and questioning once I arrived at the synagogue in Italy (the main Rome synagogue was the target of a terror attack in the 1980s), France, Germany, Portugal, and Brazil, all in the past few years. I've been to a few of those places and somehow managed not to notice all of those things. 3-9 did this very well already. Where? You, 3-9, and Gamera are all rather prolific (if not necessarily coherent) and there's only one of me bothering to have this "debate" so it takes me awhile to catch up even before the disadvantage I face from having to take time to actually think about what I write. I'm not condoning any of those things, but do you not see how your ideas just put the Jews back into the same category with all these other people? Yes. All those other people who aren't facing those things with anywhere near the same severity today and certainly don't have purpose-built countries just for them. You're naive. Listen to what Abu Mazen says when he speaks in Arabic. Or Hamas. Or the mullahs in Iran. Yeah, I can see Iran and Palestine not accepting Jewish refugees. What about the US? Canada? France? Switzerland? Israel? Germany? Norway? Sweden? Finland? Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel about Israel and the Jews? OK, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that is not fucked up beyond all hope of repair, but it's a bit hypocritical of them to declare they exist for the purpose of accepting Jews who will be turned away elsewhere and then turn away every other oppressed group in exactly the same fashion, and the crap they're pulling in Palestine (though not as bad as the crap America is pulling in Pakistan) seriously needs to end. "The Jews" are too large and diverse a group to say much of anything about, but Judaism is the religion that codified the monotheism trope (although some of its stories have polytheistic leanings) and, although no more than a cult classic itself, spawned two incredibly popular fan sequels. It's about as stupid and bullshit as every other religion, but deserves some credit for being much less virulent than, say, Christianity or Islam, and for having at least some self-awareness as to the fact that its laws were made up by dudes rather than handed down by gods. |
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