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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu May 8 17:13:32 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Wed May 7 16:57:06 2014. I ask again, where are these refugees coming from? Because I don't see any countries that Jews are fleeing from en masse.Anti-antisemitism in Europe is on the rise, aliyah to Israel from several countries has increased significantly in recent years. Jews are hardly the only demographic to have been oppressed in the recent past— I'd rather be Jewish in America in the 50s than black How about Jewish in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s? Care to try that one? Prejudice lingers, obviously, but Jews today face a lot less risk of oppression and violence than plenty of other demographics that aren't having artificially controlled countries set aside for them. Right, and this is why I had to provide all sorts of information to any Jewish community I wished to visit while traveling and then be subject to passport inspections, body inspections, and questioning once I arrived at the synagogue in Italy (the main Rome synagogue was the target of a terror attack in the 1980s), France, Germany, Portugal, and Brazil, all in the past few years. Oppressed demographics are getting together and doing something about their situation all the time, yet it's only the Jews who have demanded an artificially controlled country for their exclusive use. When you can point to the Romani State on a map or show me which chunks of North America have been set aside as nation-states in the modern sense of the term which are reserved for the exclusive use of various First Nations, then the insistence on a dedicated Jewish State will seem less odd. 3-9 did this very well already. At least tens of thousands of Romani were killed in the same places by the same people for the same reasons. Meanwhile, America had segregation (and de facto semi-slavery) as a matter of course, plus the racially motivated imprisonment of anybody with Japanese descent. Worldwide, women were considered servants, domestic workers, and fetus incubators. If you came out as gay, being declared mentally ill was probably the best outcome that you could expect. I'm not condoning any of those things, but do you not see how your ideas just put the Jews back into the same category with all these other people? antisemitic genocide campaigns that are not currently happening might potentially happen again in spite of 70 years of gradual historical progress, and if they do then we can't trust any other countries to accept refugees because the relatively primitive people of the 1940s didn't. You're naive. Listen to what Abu Mazen says when he speaks in Arabic. Or Hamas. Or the mullahs in Iran. So then, you admit that Israel is a product of money and connections - effectively, a "might makes right" approach - and not because there is any genuine legal or moral need for a dedicated Jewish State™ after all? Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel about Israel and the Jews? |
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