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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 15 12:36:06 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 22:30:43 2014. I can't help but notice that this isn't actually an argument.It ceertainly is, as you are the biggest freak show here. It's quite obvious as no one wants to take your nonsense or or even seriously. To indicate that your use of the term differs from the standard use. It's you that use it differently than standard. It's absolutely illegal here in the US (and any other country). YOU are the one using it differently. Good question. In fact that's a very good question. In fact, it's the question I've kept asking and you kept dodging. No one is dodging anything. The US law is on MY side. You are the ones that seem to think that non legal residents here should have special privilege over people that followed the process of law to immigrate here. But since you don't consider the US government legitimate, it isn[t worth perusing with you. I'm saying that taking something by force does not make you its legitimate owner, and that "let's fight for it" is bad policy in pretty much any situation. It most certainly does, as otherwise any nation on earth wouldn' t have levgal borders. But they do. For the sake of this example, we'll refer to a fairly arbitrary chunk of the east coast of North America as "Land." Any territory under the same government as that chunk is also part of "Land." But it doesn't work that way. here are different states, and different nations with real borders along that coast. Just because you think they are all illegitimate means nothing. Why not? Why, precisely, is the right to live in New York a birthright for you but something that has to be earned for everyone else? Because, the laww states I am an American Citizen, as were my parents. I am not a canadian citizen, so I don't have the right to live in Montreal without proper naturalization either, just as they can't live here without following the law. But Just because you think they are all illegitimate means nothing. Yes, a person of Mexican ancestry who earns US citizenship by jumping through the many hoops required to get special dispensation to live here is considered fully equal to a person of American ancestry who earns US citizenship by being born. The problem is that the accident of your ancestry determines whether the right to live in New York is a birthright or something that requires special permission. This is wrong. I've been trying to explain that to you, but it doesn't seem to be sinking in. Absolitely. I can't just move to Mexico either without following ht e laws of THEIR borders. But Just because you think they are all illegitimate means nothing. Some don't even have a naturalization process. We do. Some people are declared "natural born" citizens entitled to live here by birthright. Some people are required to earn the right to come here. The determination is made by birth lottery. This double standard is wrong, and you have failed to provide any argument to the contrary. Absolutely, and it's the same for any other country. But Just because you think they are all illegitimate means nothing. In practice, they can't. I know for a fact that I would never be able to meet the exacting standards for an American immigration visa and I doubt you would either. Yet millions do. This supposed imposible task. In practice, they can't. I know for a fact that I would never be able to meet the exacting standards for an American immigration visa and I doubt you would either. |
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