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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 13 00:47:46 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 11 21:23:19 2016.

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That's the current system. Not necessarily the future system.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 06:52:39 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 13 00:47:46 2016.

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From a poster on another forum. He is a retired Septa supervisor.

This was in response to a gentleman from out of state who occasionally visits to ride the Septa system.

I don't believe there are any special accommodations for out-of-towners, but you should attempt to get a SEPTA Senior Key Card on one of your trips to the Phila. area. There will always be some provision for those with cash only (by way of a vehicle farebox or fare kiosk at a station), but these would not be expected to give any senior discount.
At present, you can still use your Medicare card or PA driver's license on city or suburban transit and $1 cash on regional rail, but eventually they say on the website that only the Senior Key Card will be accepted for discounted fares.
You can apply for the Senior card at 1234 Market if you are in Center City on a weekday between 8 AM and 4 PM (on the lower level next to the streetcar [2733]). How soon the card will actually be required is uncertain, but the day is coming.
SEPTA's website says you can also contact your state legislator, but I think in your case that would be a very long shot. (If you enjoy harassing your local state legislator, give it a try, after all SEPTA is a state agency.)




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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 08:42:49 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 06:52:39 2016.

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I have to find that article that said they had 40,000 senior cards , IIRC to mail out. 10,000 the first week , etc. for the next four weeks.

Meanwhile, I found this about the Key System.
KEY System Updates

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 09:14:43 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 08:42:49 2016.

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Senior cards

Cards will be mailed next month so maybe I'll get mine for an Xmas, (Dec.25), or Chanukah , Dec.24),present. :):):)

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 14:09:52 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 09:14:43 2016.

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No token, no problem.
Quick Trip

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 13 14:33:35 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 11 21:23:19 2016.

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I always love when people say discrimination. Isn't it discrimination under that premise that seniors get a fare reduction and others don't. Some systems even allow discounts for people who still work. Why should a system feel compelled to give a discount to people from out of the area, except maybe a tourism based fare?

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 14 16:15:16 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 13 06:52:39 2016.

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If that right disappears because it becomes unavailable to out of staters, then it may be grounds for a class action discrimination suit!

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 14 16:16:38 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 13 14:33:35 2016.

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Either it gives the discount to ALL people regardless of their place of residence or it shouldn’t give it to any. That is where the discrimination attaches.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 14 16:44:06 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 14 16:16:38 2016.

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I agree 100%.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 14 19:19:20 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by randyo on Mon Nov 14 16:16:38 2016.

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In Chicago, at least it was true in 2012, one had to go to the RTA sales office next to CTA's on Clinton Street to fill out a senior permit to get a half fare Chicagocard. Suffice it to say, tourists aren't going to do that, and they tend to be there more on weekends.

FTA says they have to do it, but they can't tell you how difficult to not make it.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 14 19:26:46 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 14 16:44:06 2016.

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There is some logic to that viewpoint, but it has been a long established practice for localities to give favored pricing to residents.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 15 12:17:24 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 14 19:19:20 2016.

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Class action suit will have a judge tell the agency how difficult not to make it!

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 28 19:21:45 2016, in response to Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jan 19 08:38:13 2016.

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I just got my Senior Key Card i the mail. They tell you to immediately discard your old paper card.
I'm keeping mine if I ride other systems in Penna.:)

I only half smiled, looks awful. I applied for this card in May, 2016.

Senior Key Card

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 19:27:29 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 28 19:21:45 2016.

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Nice try, I knew a guy back in college who could make IDs more realistic than that.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 29 07:05:31 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Nov 28 19:27:29 2016.

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I had the option of having them re-take my photo after I saw the results of the first try. I really should have tried to adjust my smile and had them try again.:)

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:40:28 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 29 07:05:31 2016.

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At least they let you smile, a lot of places are forbidding it as smiling screws up facial recognition algorithms...

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 30 15:32:23 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Nov 29 18:40:28 2016.

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It’s interesting about how the smiling/non smiling attitudes change. Many years ago, persons were not allowed to smile for passport photos. Then in the 1960s, the US Passport office announced that it was desirable to depict the passport holder as a “smiling happy person” so smiling was encouraged. I understand that recently it’s gone back the other way and smiling is no longer allowed.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 30 19:03:53 2016, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by randyo on Wed Nov 30 15:32:23 2016.

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I believe effective at some point on November, no more eyeglasses for passport photos, like NJ driver licences.

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Re: Septa KEY

Posted by B1bus on Fri Jun 30 13:07:09 2017, in response to Re: Septa KEY, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Sep 23 06:18:42 2016.

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My card FINALLY arrived yesterday, June 29 2017.

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