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MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 16:36:17 2008 Hello Everyone,I spotted an Orion VII NG Today in MTA colors, with all MTA specifications. It seems that this one is indeed one of the production units. It had the triple number run box, and some other minor details that can be found on the MTA units. It looks exactly like the demonstrator #1295 did. I have two pictures, but to be honest, I've no idea how to put them up on this website. Any help would be appreciated, and I can post them! Thanks, |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Wed May 21 16:51:44 2008, in response to MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 16:36:17 2008. You'll have to do it via an image-hosting site such as flickr.com or photobucket.com; someone here will, I'm sure, be more than happy to provide you with full instructions on how to do it successfully.May I ask where you saw the new bus? |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed May 21 16:53:09 2008, in response to MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 16:36:17 2008. You can upload them either on ImageShack or Photobucket (Registration Required). |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed May 21 17:04:11 2008, in response to MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 16:36:17 2008. 1. You have to upload them to a photo hosting site. find you you like. I use Flickr, but Tinypic might be better since it's quicker for a beginner to start uploading.2. After they finish getting up onto the website, there should be an area with a bunch of text that says something like "Embed" or "Post on other fourms". 3. Copy and paste the code in your post. The code should look like this (no spaces after "<" and before "/>"): < img src="IMG URL (the address of the image)" alt="Name of the photo (you can leave this blank if you want)" /> 4. Make sure you preview your post. If the photos show, post the message, and you're good. If not, the code might be wrong. If you keep hitting problems, you could just email the photos to me and I'll put them up for you. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 21 17:39:42 2008, in response to MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 16:36:17 2008. Email them to me and I'll host them.subchat @ railfanwindow.com (take out the spaces) |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed May 21 17:04:11 2008. Here it is. Thanks for the help with uploading. The bus doesn't seem to be fully painted/decalled. The rear cap looks to be black, as I saw black paint at by the clearance light on the rear side.Can anyone notice the three sets of lights whcih look like the "reverse" clear lights on the sides of the bus below the windows? What the heck is that for???  |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed May 21 18:24:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. Nice photo.Is that a multicolored front sign, or is that just a result of the lighting? It looks a bit lighter in color than the standard amber LEDs. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 21 18:26:40 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. nice pic of a bus with ugly headlights and grill treatment and IIRC an ugly rear end. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed May 21 18:33:32 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. I think those are turn signals you're talking about. Not sure though. Glad to see it worked!I see a "Quality Control Sticker". That's coming right off! |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Wed May 21 18:34:08 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. Beautiful image of a classy-looking vehicle. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed May 21 18:45:00 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. No number? Bus 0000?:) |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Wed May 21 20:52:42 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by JAzumah on Wed May 21 18:45:00 2008. Not yet; it's apparently in the final stage of production. |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed May 21 21:54:16 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Bingham C50 on Wed May 21 20:52:42 2008. If it has black paint in the rear, how much time will it be before MTA has it repainted in-house? |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Wed May 21 23:01:23 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by mr_brian on Wed May 21 21:54:16 2008. Based on how 1292 and 1295 were painted, I believe the new fleet will have a mostly white rear end treatment. |
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Posted by Houston METRO Fan on Thu May 22 01:00:52 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. Cool pic and thanks for sharing it here. Let us know if you have more. Thanks. |
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Posted by Smoothie on Thu May 22 01:40:39 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. Wow. I hate to say it but i think the other one looks better. Sorry guys for being negetive. I just dont see myself excepting these buses. How many of these buses will we be getting?-Smoothie! |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Thu May 22 07:04:10 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Smoothie on Thu May 22 01:40:39 2008. "How many of these buses will we be getting?"Over 800 of them. It's a large order. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu May 22 08:37:55 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Smoothie on Thu May 22 01:40:39 2008. "I just don`t see myself excepting these buses" Well,unless you work for NYCT/MTA Regional Bus and your that is your job, it really won`t matter. It will be your decision to either ride them or let it go by & wait for the next bus hoping it will be a different model. I know lots of riders who refused to ride the Command CNG / RTS`s & waited for either a Classic or Orion V. The powers that be don`t give a darn what any of us historians think or like. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 22 13:09:13 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. That's a radical design change from here. You sure it's still a VII? Or am I confused, and our current models are the VI? From the 'Hybrid Elctric' decal, I assume NG in this case does not mean Natural Gas. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 22 13:19:12 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 22 13:09:13 2008. It's an Orion VII NG (Next Generation). What we currently have is the Orion VII. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:33:47 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 22 13:09:13 2008. The Orion VII NG "Next Generation" is roughly the same thing as the garden-variety Orion VII. The differences are a radically redesigned front end, a somewhat-changed rear end, and frameless side windows. Other than that, it's the same bus.By the way, this is what the rear looks like (although it seems as though the top panel will be initially painted black on the first order of NGs): 
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:45:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:33:47 2008. Your forgetting one thing: the part of the bus where the windows are upper level everything under that is painted black. So thats a difference too. Unless thats the window where that part is too. Is it? |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:46:20 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:45:04 2008. The black paint isn't really a design difference, it's a difference in specifications by the customer. |
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Posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:46:55 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:33:47 2008. The part of the window that goes up in the back, is that paint or the actual window? I can't tell. |
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Posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:49:10 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:46:20 2008. Are you sure? Every NG Orion VII I've seen so far, even the one thats shown on their website, is like that. |
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Posted by prpapi718 on Thu May 22 13:58:09 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:49:10 2008. We currently have Orion 7 frist generation hybrids and 2nd generation hybrids.Now by the summer we should be gettting the next generation hybrids which is the same thing in the inside you know.the only difference is the back and the front thats all.i wish the MTA ordered better buses than these |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 14:30:11 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:46:55 2008. That is black paint. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu May 22 15:42:18 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 22 13:33:47 2008. What is that extra "hump" towards the rear of the bus? The standard Orion VIIs don't have that hump but the NGs, such as 1295 above, do. |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu May 22 16:27:58 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Jan 6109 on Wed May 21 18:22:04 2008. remember the mta has yet to accept the bus and give the ok for the full order to be produced. two units were produced and this may be the third due 5/26/08. this info courtesy of dmcr a poster at transitstuff who knows someone at the orion plant. if mta gives the ok 850 units will be produced over 2-3 years. 745 go to nyct and the balance to mta bus. first 30 were to go to yukon depot beginning 8/1/08.we will see what happens. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 23 07:53:39 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed May 21 18:33:32 2008. Not necessarily.
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 23 09:37:59 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 23 07:53:39 2008. The LaGuardia depot does not come to mind at whenever I think of Quality and/or Control |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri May 23 16:13:11 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by ECDT on Thu May 22 13:49:10 2008. It's part of the NG's design, however customers can specify that area be painted whatever color. |
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Re: MTA Orion VII NG |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri May 23 16:15:11 2008, in response to Re: MTA Orion VII NG, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Thu May 22 15:42:18 2008. That's the hybrid propulsion control system. On the older VII's it was placed in the engine compartment. |
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