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Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com |
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Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 13:19:16 2007, in response to Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 12:16:16 2007. Well when all the nabi's are in it will be 50/50 with mci's. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 16:56:28 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. Even up close, the bus looks ugly outside, but inside, it has suburban style seating (at least behind the back door).Pictures of my own will be posted tonight---shot at Times Square. And don't go looking for this bus now, for it has pulled into the garage. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 17:03:33 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Oct 11 15:52:16 2007. Try looking for it during the midday...I saw and shot it today, but it pulled in right after that trip. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Oct 12 18:02:18 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 17:03:33 2007. I was going to be in the city on Wednesday around 7am. Would i see it running or be out of luck? |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 18:20:32 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 16:56:28 2007. Is it a 35 footer and only 96 inches wide ? Thats what was posted on here. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Fri Oct 12 18:34:37 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 18:20:32 2007. Its 35 foot length by 98 inches wide |
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Posted by lbt 9415 on Fri Oct 12 19:55:00 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. that's prolly the ugliest garbage i've ever seen |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 20:01:05 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 18:20:32 2007. O.K thanks ! |
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Posted by WillD on Fri Oct 12 20:19:10 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. I guess I'm the only one who could give a damn what it looks like. The big problem I see with it is that it's yet another attempt to shoehorn gas turbine engines into inappropriate applications. USDOT has squandered billions trying to make gas turbine locomotives only to end up with some shortlived M1s, 15 year old French trainsets sitting in Bear DE, and a pork barrel project for Bombardier which yielded one demo locomotive. Just what we need to do, hand another multimillion dollar R&D contract to a foreign company to confirm that yes, gas turbines are a bad idea in so volatile an environment.If we're gonna do pork couldn't we at least try to keep the money here in the states? Hell, if Manhattan wants quieter streetlevel transit then build some LRT networks. The rest of the US has figured it out, surely NYC can catch up. |
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The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007.  7 Avenue and West 42 Street. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Oct 12 20:53:24 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. What is this, the Wachovia Bank corporate bus? If folks think it is ugly now, what until the NYC MTA paint scheme (pardon the expression!) is applied.In all honesty, bearing in mind all the boxiness of today's breed of buses, I like this. Yes, it seems that when it comes to North American bus designs, the imagination is squashed. Foreign manufacturers have managed to think "outside the box", in more ways than one. Joe C |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Oct 12 20:58:44 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by caine515 on Fri Oct 12 18:02:18 2007. I saw this bus this a.m. about 7:30, at 42nd and 6th. Pouring rain, and running too close to work time, I could not go after it.At 4pm it was already off the road. joe c |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:59:42 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by r17-6599 on Fri Oct 12 20:53:24 2007. The Wachovia Bank symbol is there because of where that bus first ran---at the Wachovia Championship in Charlotte. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 21:00:14 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by r17-6599 on Fri Oct 12 20:58:44 2007. When I had shot it, it was on its final run. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:09:43 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. Thanks for the larger pic, so I can rally see that eyesore on wheels. That RTS behind is so much larger compared to that bus. Again, what brain dead dummy in the MTA said DAAAAHHHHH YESSSS! (with slobber running down their retarded mouths) to testing s smaller capacity bus, for growing ridership?Don't be surprised if the next subway train order is actually something that looks like, and is the size of a roller coaster. It would be tested on the Lexington Line. What better place to put a smaller people mover, other than a line that needs increased (or at least the same) capacity. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:10:30 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:59:42 2007. It should of ran there last also. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:11:04 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 21:00:14 2007. Only if it were its true final run. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Oct 12 21:31:07 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by trnsper on Thu Oct 11 20:36:16 2007. it would've been nice if the city bought those gilligs. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:38:16 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Oct 12 21:31:07 2007. IAWTP. |
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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:40:18 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by trnsper on Thu Oct 11 20:36:16 2007. So it's the propulsion they are testing, not the actual bus?We already know how the media can be with stating things to the public. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Oct 12 21:58:26 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 21:09:43 2007. Well if anything..they could put them on Staten Island (which is over-due for some new buses), because then, everyone else will never have to see them and the smaller capacity won't be as much a concern. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Oct 12 22:00:15 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Oct 12 21:58:26 2007. Actually, I rectract that...after taking another look at the bus. NG Orion 7s please! |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Oct 12 22:12:33 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. a much better paint job than the boring crap we got now! |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 22:49:57 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Oct 12 21:58:26 2007. I was just thinking that. I was saying to myself maybe they could put that garbage, where the city use to put theirs. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 22:50:27 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Oct 12 22:00:15 2007. LOL! No ugly for STI? |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 22:55:29 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Oct 12 00:40:37 2007. Y'all don't like eggs on wheels? |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Oct 12 22:57:19 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. Maybe it's just me, but it seems to resemble Monthra's caterpillar babies. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Oct 12 23:21:44 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. Still hate it. Looks like a RV in distress. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Oct 12 23:38:02 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. I don't care much for the sides, but the front is dead gorgeous. Very 21st century. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Oct 13 01:28:50 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 12 06:36:27 2007. Metal is better than plastic. Plastic seems cheap. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Oct 13 01:34:24 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. That's the ugliest bus that I've ever seen! I'd rather see the Orion VII NG than that. ILL!I'll be in the city next week to get a look at this thing for myself. Does it have a certain schedule that it follows each day that it's in service? |
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Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Oct 13 03:58:06 2007, in response to Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by busdude2 on Fri Oct 12 13:19:16 2007. ...that's even worse!At least there is somewhat of a variety of buses now... |
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Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 08:35:21 2007, in response to Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Oct 13 03:58:06 2007. Well its the wave of the future like the orions in nyc. |
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Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 09:51:58 2007, in response to Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 08:35:21 2007. However, NJ Transit's "wave" is the only one not including any low floors (for itself; 26 low floor buses are being ordered, but for the Atlantic City Jitney). |
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Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 10:00:49 2007, in response to Re: Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 09:51:58 2007. I am a high floor fan so that works for me. Jersey is safe from low floors until the nabi's need replacing or god forbid they get low floor artics. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 10:00:56 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by WillD on Fri Oct 12 20:19:10 2007. The design, and model, however, are nowhere near new (and so I wouldn't exactly classify this as pork...but rather an off-the-shelf bus US-spec). Tokyo and Hong Kong has been running this technology since 2003 with success.This technology has been used since 2000 (the major R&D spent on this model was for the Sydney Olympics) by this company. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 10:05:43 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 10:00:56 2007. Did you get a shot of the back ? |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 10:10:20 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Oct 12 23:38:02 2007. Are we looking at the same pic. Thats UGLY ! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 10:11:41 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 10:05:43 2007. No shot of the back, however...at least not yet. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 10:12:36 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Oct 12 23:38:02 2007. Well, compared to the designs out of North America, this does look interesting to say the least. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 10:50:13 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 10:11:41 2007. Thanks |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 13 11:43:51 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. Nice..now if they have a forty foot version or perhaps 45ft..then we are talking business. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 11:46:16 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 13 11:43:51 2007. The standard Designline bus can come in a 40 foot model...but not this one. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Oct 13 11:49:20 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 13 11:43:51 2007. This one, which was built off the shelf (US-spec), however, is not in a 40 foot version at this time. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 11:49:32 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Edwards! on Sat Oct 13 11:43:51 2007. Sorry but that bus would never make it in nyc. One good pothole and the ugly thing would fall apart. What garbage leave it at the curb. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Sat Oct 13 11:53:37 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 13 11:49:32 2007. Maybe it would look better, if it did hit one good pothole, and fell apart. It would shed some of that ugliness. |
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Posted by 3440 on Sat Oct 13 12:00:30 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. that bus/VAn look it's a 60inch.BJC |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Sat Oct 13 12:51:28 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. Thanks for sharing the pic! It is a nice departure from the usual and sometimes boring North American design.I find it funny that, while people are entitled to their own opinion, they are so quick to judge this bus. Regarding the width, if this bus does become sucessful in North America, I'm sure a 102' wide version would be developed. IIRC, 98' is the maximum width allowed in Australia and New Zealand. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by PATHman on Sat Oct 13 12:56:46 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. I'll probably get flamed for this but I think it is grotesque. I thought the first hybrids were ugly but each successive model looks more and more peculiar. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by 3440 on Sat Oct 13 13:20:52 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by PATHman on Sat Oct 13 12:56:46 2007. NG look good....at first NG look out of place to me and I didn't really like it.,but thoses new buses really look out of place and the look weird...I'll be happy to see NG come here sooner than later....My question is...if MTA get theses buses,they will also get NG too?BJC |
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