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Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by darpavader on Sun Oct 14 23:46:23 2007, in response to Re: Some More Info On This Bus...Re: The Model Is...Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 14 21:55:20 2007. Hello, this is my first post here. I justed wanted to give my two cents about the new bus. I don't know if you guys know, but the turbine in the bus is really pretty cool. They're made out in CA by a company called Capstone, the use no oil. They use air bearings, which cuts down on the turbines down time, they have very good MTBF. As far Designline goes, they are building a plant in NC that should be ready trhis spring. Anyway, I hope this helps.Oh one more thing, the turbine is very very quiet. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Oct 15 00:16:03 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bingham C50 on Sun Oct 14 22:05:46 2007. Well, the Optima Opus shells are licensed to WrightBus in UK. They have a 40 foot with three different type of chassis.Wright Eclipse (Volvo B7/B7A)  Wright Solar (Scania L94UB)  Wright Meridian (MAN A22) |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by DA74 on Mon Oct 15 04:13:32 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 14 14:12:21 2007. They can also do something to play around. The trident that run in HK are used to be with single pane windshield. But one of the operater think it will be better if they use two, so they change the future order inti 2 pane windshield. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Oct 15 08:26:05 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 14 14:12:21 2007. However, the MTA is ordering the LFS articulated...and this bus is USUALLY a single-pane front windshield. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by QM18Express on Mon Oct 15 09:52:57 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Oct 15 08:26:05 2007. "the MTA is ordering the LFS articulated."May I ask where U heard this from? |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 15 16:03:17 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Oct 13 01:34:24 2007. I think it's running only on 42nd Street. I caught it today around 11:45 heading toward the Javits Center. Only one driver is on it each day, so it went out of service for about an hour around noon, for a meal break. I think they trained 5 drivers to operate the bus.  I liked the bus, especially the one big wiper arm for the front windshield. Also, the people aboard were easy going. |
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For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 17:50:28 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. 
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 15 18:03:12 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 14 14:12:21 2007. If you READ it CORRECTLY,STUPID..you would have seen where the rep STATED IF the MTA PURCHASED the MODEL it MAKE CHANGES to the design to suit its needs...such as BACK DOOR BUZZERS TO ALERT the driver when a stop was requested... |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 15 18:05:10 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Oct 15 08:26:05 2007. The LFS only comes with single pane windshields..But MAYBE they COULD get it anyway they want... Perhaps they want this bus for its BRT routes...? Or they don't want to deal with NOVA at all? |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:07:23 2007, in response to For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 17:50:28 2007. LOL! Nice subject! What time did you take this picture? I was out there today from 1130am until about 315pm. Pictures will be posted fairly soon.All and all, it did have a nice ride to it. Better than any of the Orion VIIs, that's for sure. However, 35 feet will not cut it for NYC. Many people that boarded were comparing 9900 to an airport shuttle bus. |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 18:12:35 2007, in response to Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:07:23 2007. The picture was taken at 14:27. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:13:56 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 15 16:03:17 2007. I was on that very trip. I just didn't notice you. I was the guy wearing a beige DC hat, black and white checkered shirt and beige pants with a blue backpack and sunglasses. I was sitting towards the rear of the bus. I got off and went towards the bus stop where I was able to catch a photo of 9900 passing by. Again, pics will be posted soon. |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 18:14:07 2007, in response to Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 18:12:35 2007. I walked from 3rd Avenue to 10th Avenue, caught an eastbound M42, and had to jump off at Port Authority to snap this pic.I should have just walked to 1st Avenue! |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:18:44 2007, in response to Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 18:14:07 2007. I got off at GCT around 1415 and walked towards 34 St. I met up with the bus again at Times Square at 1500. I took it over to 1st Avenue, got a few pics, then walked back up to GCT where I caught the 5-W-7 home. I like going home the scenic route-lol. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 15 18:37:04 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:13:56 2007. I got on at 5th and rode to the Javits Center. I sat in the last row in the back. I had on a red jacket, blue cap, backpack and a camera bag with a camcorder. There was a tall guy in front of me. Were you sitting by the window in the rear? |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Mon Oct 15 19:14:46 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by q55viamyrtle on Sun Oct 14 21:10:27 2007. >From what I remember, the RTS and Grummans were well liked. They had a comfortable ride, were fast, looked good, had working a/c and riders loved seeing a "new" bus approaching as they waited for their ride.I gather this was after those people had experienced the bus. It seems that some mebers on this board were and still are very quick to judge the Designline bus despite not riding it, hearing that this bus did well elsewhere, and the fact the MTA is apparently just testing the propulsion system. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Oct 15 20:39:16 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R22 Shoal Point on Mon Oct 15 19:14:46 2007. When Gillig #5770 was her for a bit(and i remember riding on this bus on the M1) were they also testing the proplustion system as well or seeing if the TA was to order the bus?B6-#9097-NOVABUS |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Oct 15 23:12:16 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by caine515 on Mon Oct 15 20:39:16 2007. They were testing GM Allison hybrid propulsion system |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 23:22:48 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 15 18:37:04 2007. I may have been that tall guy in front of you. I forgot I had a gray jacket with a hood on. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Oct 16 00:10:36 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Oct 14 21:56:18 2007. Before the takeover 9900 was used as an RTS Hybrid Demo, hence the reason why MTA Bus skipped the number. |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 16 00:18:04 2007, in response to For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 15 17:50:28 2007. nice, thanks. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 16 00:21:23 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 15 18:03:12 2007. You made that post about yourself, I assume, right? Because I did read the article and I do understand that. You're the one who expressed surprise at the one piece windshield. You are really mixed up. |
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Here they are: Your Top 10 Exterior Pics of the Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Oct 16 00:30:16 2007, in response to Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 11 13:12:24 2007. All were taken on Monday, October 15, 2007 along the M42:10.  9.  8.  7.  6.  5.  4.  3.  2.  AND the #1 Exterior Photo of the Newest Hybrid for the MTA is:  Hope that you enjoyed! Interior pics will come soon. |
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Re: Here they are: Your Top 10 Exterior Pics of the Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by K1(42B)- Barbour St on Tue Oct 16 02:10:28 2007, in response to Here they are: Your Top 10 Exterior Pics of the Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Oct 16 00:30:16 2007. Does this bus have Luminator Titan?Daniel M K1(42B)-Barbour St |
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Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Oct 16 07:28:10 2007, in response to Re: For the bus proctologists (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:18:44 2007. Like to get your speed too, eh? |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by Mr RT on Tue Oct 16 08:00:27 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 15 18:37:04 2007. And he doesn't look anything like Woody Allen :-( |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 17 16:05:47 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 15 18:13:56 2007. I saw you. Apologies for not saying hello, but I didn't notice that you were taking pictures until the bus reached its eastbound terminus.I got on at 42nd and 3rd. I was sitting one row back from you for most of the eastbound trip. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 17 16:10:40 2007, in response to The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Oct 12 20:24:28 2007. It might be a bit ugly, but having ridden it I've decided that it's an excellent bus. |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 17 16:14:12 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Oct 15 08:26:05 2007. Please don't propagate rumors that may not be true (unless you have PROFF.) |
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Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 17 16:21:10 2007, in response to Re: The horror (1 pic) Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 17 16:14:12 2007. The source, however, which is not myself, would prefer to remain anonymous. Those who know, you know. |
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Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA |
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Posted by jb on Fri Oct 19 11:01:01 2007, in response to Re: Newest Hybrid for MTA, posted by DOB2RTO on Thu Oct 11 20:18:15 2007. The MTA (By Wachovia) Now featuring on board ATM MAchine |
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MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 18 19:52:58 2008, in response to Article: Bus of the future has maiden voyage -- amNY.com, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 12 10:00:08 2007. MTA may test new hybrid electric busesBy Marlene Naanes July 17, 2008 Library-quiet electric hybrid buses could be put to the test on city streets this fall. Thirty futuristic-looking 40-foot buses will roll out on local routes in Manhattan beginning this September if the MTA board approves a $50 million-plus contract for a two-phase pilot project next week. If all goes well, the agency would then give the green light for the second phase, which would bring another 60 electric hybrid buses to the streets. A smaller model of the buses proved successful during a 30-day trial run last fall on Manhattan and Queens bus routes. Transit officials are optimistic the buses will stand up to bumpy city streets during the pilot. "We wouldn't be going through this step if we didn't think it was worth it," New York City Transit spokesman Paul Fleuranges said. The buses feature a hybrid electric turbine engine in place of a diesel engine, quieting down an operating bus to a whisper. The engines also do not require oil changes and some other maintenance, so the buses are better for the environment and cheaper to operate, transit said. Transit already has 824 diesel hybrid buses in its fleet of 4,565 at a cost of $531,666 each. The new hybrid electric turbine engine buses cost an additional $28,136 a piece, but cuts down on maintenance costs.... |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 18 21:51:35 2008, in response to MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 18 19:52:58 2008. My luck is they are going to be the Orion VII, unless the city is buying another type of bus that we don't know about. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 18 22:29:39 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 18 21:51:35 2008. They're talking about these! The DesignLine Hybrid buess.
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Jul 18 23:08:12 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 18 21:51:35 2008. Photo from Wikipedia: This is what DesignLine's 40-foot buses look like....maybe we might see this as the 40-foot hybrid described in the article... Would be interesting if we tested an artic hybrid version of this bus...DesignLine also does articulateds. --Dr. C The Doctor Is In! |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 19 09:30:12 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Jul 18 23:08:12 2008. something else for the tourists to ride. the outer boroughs only get orions crap. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Jul 19 17:31:45 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Jul 18 23:08:12 2008. Quite attractive. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Jul 19 17:51:02 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Jul 19 17:31:45 2008. More like sexy. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Jul 19 18:25:14 2008, in response to MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 18 19:52:58 2008. Why'd you revive a 9-month old thread? I doubt it would've been a problem if you just made a new thread... |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 19 22:24:40 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Jul 19 18:25:14 2008. Wow. Just wow.Because this way people know what the FSCK a design line bus is, and what basis they have for testing 30 of them. Did you ever think of that? Why make it harder for the spread of information? Why?? Why not actually HELP people here? Is that a foreign concept??? Or are you too lazy to find old threads and you resent my doing it? |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 19 22:25:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 18 21:51:35 2008. Didn't you read the title of the thread, as well as the posts that came before mine? |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sun Jul 20 19:43:17 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Jul 19 17:51:02 2008. I'll go along with that, too.:) |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 04:34:50 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 18 22:29:39 2008. One, that bus is hideous in ways that the original Ford Taurus was hideous.Two, Was it at one time wrapped for Wachovia? |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 04:35:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Jul 19 17:51:02 2008. Uhm...ok, then. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 06:52:29 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 04:34:50 2008. The original ford Taurus was anything but hideous. It was a design leader.Yes, it was wrapped for Wachovia. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Jul 21 09:23:32 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 04:34:50 2008. I didn't think it looked too bad...I would have liked to see it in a 40' configuration.Yes, it was originally wrapped for Wachovia. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 09:41:48 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Jul 21 09:23:32 2008. I believe a photo was posted in this thread of a 40' DesignLine bus. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 10:39:18 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 06:52:29 2008. Oh, the Taurus was definately a sign of things to come, but the first-gen design wasn't the best iteration of it. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Jul 21 10:48:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 09:41:48 2008. Yes, but of a different design, not the one that was here in New York. |
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Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 21 12:36:05 2008, in response to Re: MTA may test 30 DesignLine 40' Hybrid Buses, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jul 21 10:39:18 2008. So you're saying it wasn't hideous, just a bit unrefined? |
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