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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jun 14 23:44:40 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Wed Jun 13 22:02:14 2007. Right now the bus is just running "light" on Manhattanville routes with a new bus procurement employee collecting data with a laptop hooked up to the buses computer.The bus still has no farebox or radio installed. Hopefully on Monday I can get some pictures of the bus and email them to someone in here to post them. I saw the bus this morning but weekday mornings I have to many pullouts to cover and have no time to take any pics. Monday's once I make 5Pm service I have some time to chill a little and maybe I can find the bus parked in the depot. |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jun 14 23:48:40 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by subwaysurf on Thu Jun 14 10:23:45 2007. I never really thought the RTS was pretty. Its design was very functional and very tough. I loved the RTS and I really liked driving them. Its the best bus NYC transit had for a generation.I think the Grumman/Flexible was a real pretty design, especially for its time. |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Jun 15 00:04:09 2007, in response to Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by PATransit on Thu Jun 14 22:53:47 2007. I think that's just black paint. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 15 08:02:08 2007, in response to More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007. Test or revenue service ?Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 15 08:27:30 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jun 14 23:48:40 2007. I agree, the RTS design is purely functional, honestly no different than that of the Orion VII.I actually favor the Orion V's design slightly better than that of the RTS, but I guess that's what I happens when you live in Staten (Orion V) Island. |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 15 09:33:57 2007, in response to Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 15 08:02:08 2007. Test, see the cautin sign on the back? |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 15 10:14:13 2007, in response to More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007. Nice pics. Thanks for taking the great deal of time to hunt it down.I don't care what people say, I actually like this bus. The headlights (and fake front grille) look like cheap afterthoughts in an era when stylized headlights play a big part in front end design. There is absolutely NO excuse for that. And the rear end looks like the designer feel asleep while doodling and then drooled all over the paper. And then they built the resulting sloppy gooey mess! WTF?!?!!?!? but it's miles ahead of the old Orion VII. I hate the extremely boxy side windows of the VII. But the VII's front and rear ends don't have any gross stylistic mistakes, no matter how plain and boring they are. |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 15 10:16:30 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jun 15 08:27:30 2007. LOL, the RTS design is not just purely functional!!!!!! It is a nice looking bus, and I expect that a lot of time and car was spent designing the exterior. |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Jun 15 11:23:02 2007, in response to Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 15 10:14:13 2007. And the rear end looks like the designer feel asleep while doodling and then drooled all over the paper. And then they built the resulting sloppy gooey mess! WTF?!?!!?!?The taillights I have no problem with -- but the asymmetrical vent grille looks terrible, I agree. Time for a redesign. I hate the extremely boxy side windows of the VII. But the VII's front and rear ends don't have any gross stylistic mistakes, no matter how plain and boring they are. The old VII's front looked like it was cut off from an Orion V bus and slapped onto the VII without any regard for aesthetics at all. The front was nice -- but it wasn't congruous at all. The new front looks a bit more congruous with the rest of the bus -- the old VII rear end should have been largely kept the same, though. |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by Transit Guy on Fri Jun 15 17:10:25 2007, in response to More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jun 14 21:24:32 2007. First of all I would like to say thanks a lot for dedicating your time on shooting these buses and they are very nice photos. I was just thinking though shouldn't the reverse lights be a little bigger? Thanks |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jun 15 17:52:22 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in Canada, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 15 10:16:30 2007. The way the front glass turned inward was much better than the Flexible triangler glass, or fishbowl because it reflected light downward enabling the operator to see better at night with the interior lights on.Also, the first RTS's had a triangler back side which was modified later to improve the A/C unit. It was the first bus to have fiberglass panels that would break easy but also didn't dent easily and were easily replaceable cutting down on down time for repairs. They made the bus much lighter also. The RTS was a very functional city bus. I don't think it was pretty but the design was extremely functional and economic |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 19:21:43 2007, in response to Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by fishbowls4ever on Thu Jun 14 21:43:21 2007. Tow hooks on the front? Maybe I'm having trouble seeing, but I think you are refering to the bicycle rack? |
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Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS |
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Posted by fishbowls4ever on Fri Jun 15 19:54:54 2007, in response to Re: More Orion VII NG PHOTOS, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jun 15 19:21:43 2007. look under the bumper i trhink i know the difference |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jun 15 21:14:48 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jun 14 23:44:40 2007. Should have brought my camera today! The bus was parked almost all morning on my floor. I got a chance to get in and see everything. The climate control is like a cars, you can choose between auto, heat, cool and vent.Also there is no crowd control door for the operator, but I'm sue these are only a few things that NYC transit will change with an order if decided upon. |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jun 15 21:19:16 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jun 14 23:44:40 2007. I saw that bus today, but I was on another bus and helpless to get off in time...and didn't see it again. Is this bus scheduled to actually make revenue runs? |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Jun 16 00:15:06 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jun 15 21:14:48 2007. Hopefully, NYC will stick with the original design. Even though it is an ugly, boxy and plain looking design, it sure as heck beats that RV style design. |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jun 16 00:32:33 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Jun 16 00:15:06 2007. Can't...it's off production and the old style kits are discontinued. The first NG for the NYCTA may already have been produced. |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jun 16 00:53:16 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007. did you get the "kitten's" phone number?nice shot of the bus, too |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Jun 16 04:18:14 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jun 15 21:19:16 2007. No news on that as of yet. It still has no farebox or radio.I think this particular will make any revenue runs. |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Jun 16 12:20:07 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jun 16 00:32:33 2007. Why would they go for this crappy design? |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jun 16 21:05:04 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Jun 16 12:20:07 2007. Why don't you accept the fact that MTA and Orion is married together for more then a decade. |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Jun 17 10:30:17 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jun 16 21:05:04 2007. I have accepted it. The current design that is. In fact, I rode 2 of them yesterday on the Q19: 3604 and 3610.Since the RTS is now dead (except for the ones that are currently running) Orion is the only other local bus manufacturer that the MTA can go with. MCI for the Express-I have nothing negative to say about them because I like those buses. |
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Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sun Jun 17 10:33:46 2007, in response to Re: Same Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sun Jun 17 10:30:17 2007. When you say local bus manufacturer do you mean NY or USA ? Because Nabi is in Alabama. |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by MTA5000 on Wed Dec 31 11:23:46 2008, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Tue Jun 12 22:47:15 2007. well it is now gone and the real order started! |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jan 1 00:35:45 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by MTA5000 on Wed Dec 31 11:23:46 2008. Umm, how come you replied to a thread that is like a year and a half old? |
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Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Jan 1 08:23:08 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII Next Generation demo #1292A pictures in New York City, posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jan 1 00:35:45 2009. Me too, it drives me nuts! |
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