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PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007

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Click the pic to see the pics.

Highlight for Album: April 20, 2007 - MTA Earth Day Fair at GCT - Part I

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Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Élément Dramatique on Fri Apr 20 10:56:28 2007, in response to PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007.

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The picture of Coach USA/Suburban Transit MCI #37017 is not a MCI D4500CT, it is a MCI 102-DLA3 with a upgraded Contemporary Style Front Cap!

Trevor

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Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 11:10:07 2007, in response to Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Élément Dramatique on Fri Apr 20 10:56:28 2007.

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DOH!

Thanks.

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Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 12:03:01 2007, in response to PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007.

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David of Broadway reports that there is an Orion VII NG on display right now at 42nd St nd Vanderbilt or thereabouts.

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by JohnnyMints on Fri Apr 20 14:51:38 2007, in response to Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 12:03:01 2007.

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Correct. It was on Vanderbilt near 42nd, in the manufacturer's colors. I didn't have a chance to hang around there since I was passing through on my courier route.

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 14:56:04 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by JohnnyMints on Fri Apr 20 14:51:38 2007.

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Cool. I might stop by later. Dunno if it will still be there.

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9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007, in response to Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 12:03:01 2007.

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7 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:58:43 2007, in response to PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by mr_brian on Fri Apr 20 17:17:38 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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That wrap on the rear looks ridiculous.

And the arrangement of the destination sign keypad and other things is very...unique.

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Re: 7 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by monorail on Fri Apr 20 17:38:00 2007, in response to 7 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:58:43 2007.

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nice

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by R22 Shoal Point on Fri Apr 20 18:25:52 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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Thanks for sharing the pics!
Any idea what the extra roof equipment is on that bus?

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 18:45:22 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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Foward facing high-level rear seats! Yay!!!! Orion has a brain! NYCT doesn't!

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Re: 7 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 18:46:14 2007, in response to 7 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:58:43 2007.

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yep

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** 2 MORE PHOTOS! Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 19:14:28 2007, in response to PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007.

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MTA NYCT Bus Orion VII 6749 @ Vanderbilt Avenue and 44th Street (Grand Central Terminal) as part of a display in an Earth Day fair. Photo taken by Brian Weinberg, 4/20/2007.

MTA NYCT Bus Orion VII 6749 @ Vanderbilt Avenue and 44th Street (Grand Central Terminal) as part of a display in an Earth Day fair. Photo taken by Brian Weinberg, 4/20/2007.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by Transit Guy on Fri Apr 20 19:16:46 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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Nice photos and thanks for sharing. But if this were to go in NYC, it would need more windows that can open and we most likely would not see any Orion signage at all and the front can't hold ad's.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 19:32:42 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by Transit Guy on Fri Apr 20 19:16:46 2007.

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I wish NYCT buses had manufacturer signage on the exterior :(

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Q35 Limited on Fri Apr 20 20:39:46 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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I wonder if that's how the suburban version would look like when they phase out the orion 5's?

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Earth Day Fair Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by QM18Express on Sat Apr 21 10:35:47 2007, in response to PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 10:52:02 2007.

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Very good shots
FYI the earth day fair is also going on today as well

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by 9 local on Sat Apr 21 22:51:15 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by Transit Guy on Fri Apr 20 19:16:46 2007.

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Frameless windows are now the ONLY option on the Orion 7 as of the last NYCT bus.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 21 22:59:19 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by 9 local on Sat Apr 21 22:51:15 2007.

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The MTA could demand the old style---Orion can't afford to lose the MTA as a customer.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:06:29 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Apr 21 22:59:19 2007.

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Is there any reason why the MTA always opts for framed-windows?

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by R30A on Sat Apr 21 23:14:02 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:06:29 2007.

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they open.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Apr 21 23:24:52 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by R30A on Sat Apr 21 23:14:02 2007.

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So do the frameless ones...

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Apr 21 23:26:47 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Apr 21 23:24:52 2007.

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Barely.

NYCT has insisted on sliding windows for as long as I can remember, with the Grummans and 1981 RTS's being the only exceptions I can think of.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Apr 21 23:35:14 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Apr 21 23:26:47 2007.

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Orion VII HEVs only have two sliding windows per side. Not much of a loss.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:37:19 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Apr 21 23:26:47 2007.

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Just because they haven't in the past doesn't mean they won't ever though.
Any buses that would come frameless in the future would be fully climate-controlled at least.

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Re: Earth Day Fair Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 22 00:18:54 2007, in response to Earth Day Fair Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up, posted by QM18Express on Sat Apr 21 10:35:47 2007.

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Thanks.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by Deaks on Sun Apr 22 05:33:19 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:06:29 2007.

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It looks to me that the 'frameless' types in the pictures are of the bonded design, whereas the more normal type are held in by the rubber around the window. The difference when a window is broken is that a conventional framed-type pane can be replaced quickly - prise the rubber strips out, clean the remains of the window away and then fit a new pane of glass and refit the rubber.

With the 'frameless' (i.e. bonded) glazing however, replacing a window equates to a couple of days out of service. This is because the glass is held in place by a bonding-type substance which needs to be mixed up, and then takes a day or two to cure properly. Until it's cured and the window is properly held in place, the bus must sit in the yard.

This is the only reason I can think of - fitting conventional 'framed' windows equates to much less down time when a pane gets broken.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 22 08:20:18 2007, in response to 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by David of Broadway on Fri Apr 20 16:55:22 2007.

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Looks like a Hybrid.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 22 09:12:49 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Apr 21 23:26:47 2007.

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I think that the Grumman problems is why the MTA now insists on two sliding windows on each side.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 22 09:18:52 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Apr 21 23:35:14 2007.

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Every bus since the 1982 RTSs at the MTA (save the MCI cruisers---no windows) has been spec'd with two sliding windows on each side. (Some buses wound up with different specifications, however, over time, such as RTS 3303 with all windows except one opening, and 4497 (when it got sent to Ulmer Park after being out of service for many years at Walnut), ended up with 100% SEALED windows.

The specs for local buses have not changed much since 1983---always rear A/C, hooligan lights on each side of the sign, and two sliding windows on each side, to name a few.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 10:59:29 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Apr 22 09:18:52 2007.

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Exactly, so it's not much of a loss if the two sliding windows are replaced by windows that open in from the top throughout the bus.

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 11:00:05 2007, in response to Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Apr 20 12:03:01 2007.

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Orion VII NG?????

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 22 11:06:56 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Apr 21 23:35:14 2007.

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A major loss when the air conditioning goes down.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 22 11:10:00 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Apr 21 23:37:19 2007.

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Every bus purchased by NYCT since the 1981 RTS has been fully climate controlled.

Yet the sliding windows came back in the 1982 RTS, and most 1981's were subsequently retrofitted with sliding windows.

Guess what: climate control systems break on occasion.

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 11:34:49 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 22 11:06:56 2007.

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Then open the windows from the top -- how is that so difficult?

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 22 11:39:34 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 11:00:05 2007.

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Next Generation

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Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting

Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 22 12:43:36 2007, in response to Re: 9 PHOTOS Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Apr 22 11:34:49 2007.

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It's quite ineffective. Sliding windows let a lot more air in.

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Q35 Limited on Sun Apr 22 15:48:14 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 22 11:39:34 2007.

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Like Star Trek?

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 22 16:28:27 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Q35 Limited on Sun Apr 22 15:48:14 2007.

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Maybe?

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Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up)

Posted by Q35 Limited on Sun Apr 22 16:46:59 2007, in response to Re: Orion VII NG on display! (Was: Re: PHOTOS - NYCT O7 6749 @ Earth Day Fair - setting up), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 22 16:28:27 2007.

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lol.

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