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W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 06:10:34 2025


May 6, 2019 - The Book of Last Runs

Manhattan, New York
MTA - New York City Bus

After nearly 38 years of loyal service to the Transit Authority (and through three manufacturers - GMC, TMC and Nova Bus), the RTS (Rapid Transit Series) era in New York City officially ends with one last ride for Bus 5241 (built in 1999 by Nova Bus, but carrying a TMC nameplate) on Route M55 between 44th Street-Sixth Avenue (Avenue of the Americas) and Rector Street-Broadway. Regular service for the last remaining RTS's in MTA New York City Bus' fleet had come to an end on April 30, after reports in the New York Daily News during the month of March about how these onetime mainstays of the city's streets were disproportionately assigned to the poorest neighborhoods, especially in Brooklyn, whereas wealthier neighborhoods were allotted the newer models; as well as the desire of MTA to gravitate towards an all-electric bus fleet.

After a morning ceremony at the Michael J. Quill Bus Depot where the said bus was assigned, 5241 travelled slowly (beginning around 10:30 A.M.) along 42nd Street on its way towards Sixth Avenue, finally reaching the 44th Street northern terminus at 11:18 A.M. After the passengers (including this writer) paid their way and took their seats (the bus was healthily packed but not overly so), the bus departed at 11:21 A.M. Along the way, it skipped the 35th Street, 12th Street, 10th Street, University Place, Waverly Place, Bleecker Street, Spring Street and Thames Street stops; and at one point, a blind person had boarded the bus for several blocks, as well as some who were convinced that this was a regular M55 run and not the end of the line for this venerable model. This final journey lasted 54 minutes, finally arriving at Rector Street and Broadway at 12:15 P.M. Two minutes later it left that stop, heading towards Whitehall Street (between Stone and Bridge Streets) across from MTA headquarters at 2 Broadway, where it would settle around 12:23 P.M., next to fellow RTS bus 5249 and newer "clean energy" all-electric bus 0013. After about an hour, the two RTS's headed towards South Ferry and then travelled uptown sans passengers onto the Quill depot. (5249 will be housed alongside other "museum buses" at the Amsterdam depot.)

RTS' nearly 38 years of service surpasses the run of two other iconic sets of buses that were once major fixtures of New York City streets, the GM "New Looks" (36 years, 1959-95) and their "Old Look" predecessors (32 years, 1941-73).

(Sources include: "MTA NYC Transit Retires Last of 1980s-Era Buses as Modernization of Fleet Continues, Providing Customers with Better, More Reliable Service," MTA press release, May 6, 2019; "MTA Retires Last of Its Old, Diesel Burning Rapid Transit Series Buses" by Clayton Guse, Daily News (New York), May 6, 2019; "The Last RTS Bus in Circulation Makes Its Final Run" by Vincent Barone, AM New York, May 6, 2019; "MTA Retires Old Diesel Buses As It Moves Toward All-Electric Fleet" by Caroline Spivack, Curbed New York, May 6, 2019; "NYC Transit Says Goodbye to the 'Big Blues & Whites' " by Mischa Wanek-Libman, Mass Transit, May 8, 2019.)


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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Allen45 on Tue May 6 07:52:09 2025, in response to W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 06:10:34 2025.

If you count the private companies, new looks ran until 2005 and the old looks into the mid 1970s.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue May 6 10:55:22 2025, in response to W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 06:10:34 2025.

What a pile of nonsense about them being only assigned to so called poor neighborhoods. As if it was part of a sinister plot.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 14:51:53 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue May 6 10:55:22 2025.

Yeah. As I can attest, some of the last RTS's - right up to a few months before that last ride - also plied two "tony" Manhattan routes (at least), M20 - Eighth Avenue and M42 - 42nd Street. I guess that didn't count to the Daily News "writers" . . . I actually rode on an RTS plying the M20 around February or March of 2019, before the end was nigh.

I also note that there wasn't this much "outrage" over the first Fishbowls made for Fifth Avenue Coach Lines and Surface Transit (3101-3160, 3161-3210 and A/C 1-10 later 3211-3220), in their last years of service up to their final runs in 1973, all assigned to the Kingsbridge depot where they ran various Bronx routes, some of which entered Manhattan via 181st Street. And certain of those buses, when they started out, traversed the likes of "tony" Fifth Avenue, Broadway in the Theatre District, and what in the '70's would be called "The Deuce" (a.k.a. 42nd Street).

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Allen45 on Tue May 6 15:34:37 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 14:51:53 2025.

This is the work of some random urbanist who does not know anything about buses.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by gbs on Wed May 7 02:04:25 2025, in response to W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by W.B. on Tue May 6 06:10:34 2025.


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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 7 09:26:42 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by gbs on Wed May 7 02:04:25 2025.

Where was that second pic?
Those Triboro and Jamaica buses became Green Lines around 1990. They were quick. That was the only bus I was on that broke down though. I forget the number but I think it was an ex Jamaica.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 7 10:52:28 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 7 09:26:42 2025.

Where was that second pic?

My guess would be Ullmer St or Linden Pl in Flushing/College Pt.

You can see they were already planning to widen the street because there are additional utility poles off to the right. It looks like the telephone company installed their wiring. The Con Ed power lines are still close to the narrow roadway.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 7 10:56:08 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 7 10:52:28 2025.

Ok. I’m not very familiar with those areas but I can see what you mean. I don’t recall seeing telephone poles with street lights on opposite sides like that.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Snilcher on Wed May 7 14:42:18 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 7 10:56:08 2025.

If it was a Q25 it could be Linden Place. Since it's a Q65 it would have to be College Point Blvd. (formerly College Point Causeway)

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed May 7 22:38:20 2025, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for May 6th, posted by Snilcher on Wed May 7 14:42:18 2025.

Thanks

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