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The real reason for Artics on the B1
Posted by davidy on Tue Jun 30 21:43:26 2020 NYCT ordered more than 150 artics for the L shuttle, and when the shuttle was canceled these artics had no plan for regular service to replace older buses, so they have been sitting unused since than. So transit is looking for new routes to use these extra artics o. Now that Upk is getting artics the NEW buses are going to the Bronx and Upk gets the old beat up junk. But in reality when a depot gets a new type of bus collisions go up, and the fleet gets dinged and banged up, so it is not really a bad idea.
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Tue Jun 30 22:07:23 2020, in response to The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by davidy on Tue Jun 30 21:43:26 2020.* Newly delivered artics have not been kept just sitting around. They have all been used including the newest artics at LGA. With the need for L shuttle buses, 40' buses have been scrapped earlier than planned. Like the balance of the RTS' and most of the early Orion VII OG's.
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Posted by Westcode44* on Tue Jun 30 23:58:05 2020, in response to The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by davidy on Tue Jun 30 21:43:26 2020.* I saw an artic on the B1 yesterday with Tape on the rear Engine Compartment Door,,I guess the security latch was broken.? Some of them look awfully used. WE-44
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Posted by davidy* on Wed Jul 1 07:28:28 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Westcode44 on Tue Jun 30 23:58:05 2020.* they are 2012 models
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Posted by Westcode44* on Wed Jul 1 13:21:19 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by davidy on Wed Jul 1 07:28:28 2020.* Really--they couldn't send newer models.? Oh wait I forgot it's Ulmer Park. WE-44
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Wed Jul 1 15:42:10 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Jul 1 13:21:19 2020.* The artics are Excelsiors as we all know. Ulmer Park got articulated Excelsiors for the same reason Grand Ave.(B38) & Casey Stengel.(Q12) got them. Uniformity of the fleet since all 3 depots already have Excelsior 40'ers. Many inventory parts are the same and the mechanics don't have to repair Nova's for example. A completely different bus. The newest artics are generally on SBS routes. I'd rather have these than say those beat up Novas than those beat to hell former SBS buses from the B44 or M15.
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Posted by caine515* on Wed Jul 1 22:44:05 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 1 15:42:10 2020.* Wonder how they will handle back door boarding when kingsborough college(if( they reopen in the fall.
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Wed Jul 1 22:56:54 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by caine515 on Wed Jul 1 22:44:05 2020.* Front door boarding and fare paying resumes sometime in August.
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Posted by Westcode44* on Thu Jul 2 12:51:58 2020, in response to The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by davidy on Tue Jun 30 21:43:26 2020.* MANY B1-bus drivers having difficulty making the turn on 87st 5th avenue to 4th avenue--of course ppl parking in BUS TURN area. WE-44
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Posted by Chicago44* on Thu Jul 2 14:33:49 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Westcode44 on Thu Jul 2 12:51:58 2020.* This is Why the B1 should be extended all the way down 86 St to terminate at Shore Rd & 86 St & use the southbound Street on Shore Rd to terminate the B1 bus. I hope that this extension will be considered as part of the Brooklyn Bus Service Redesign Draft Report.
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Posted by Westcode44* on Thu Jul 2 15:06:09 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Chicago44 on Thu Jul 2 14:33:49 2020.* YES agree-actually it should be Shore Road & 88st,,this was the Terminal many years ago for some B16 buses that didn't operate all the way to Shore Road & 4th Avenue. Upon returning back North-the bus could simply turn left on 88th St and left again on Narrows Avenue and then right onto 86st. WE-44
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Posted by BrooklynTrain* on Sun Jul 5 23:23:45 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Westcode44 on Thu Jul 2 15:06:09 2020.* Lots of complaints will result if there is no access from the very busy medical center at 91st/Shore Road to the 86th/4th subway, currently served by the B16. The B16 is fine as it is. Bay Ridge residents are very vocal. Hopefully the "redesign" fades away.
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Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1
Posted by BrooklynBus* on Mon Jul 6 06:32:30 2020, in response to Re: The real reason for Artics on the B1, posted by Chicago44 on Thu Jul 2 14:33:49 2020.* Which is what I proposed back in 1978.
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