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Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 23:57:48 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. Do you mean "Queens Bus Service Redesign???" or maybe "When is the Queens Bus Service Redesign coming out?" |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Dec 12 09:34:24 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. As usual no question mark.The subject implies that Chicago44 is going to give is information rather than the other way around. |
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Posted by The silence on Thu Dec 12 14:54:46 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Dec 12 09:34:24 2019. I dread the idea of telling him “why not asked them directly”, because it would just be him emailing or worse, tweeting them every five minutes. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Dec 13 17:10:51 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. The MTA said between Dec 4 and 7 (before Thanksgiving). Guess it has been delayed. |
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Posted by JerBear on Sun Dec 15 16:40:48 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. Well, Brooklyn redesign started... so maybe they're holding off on the Queens stuff so they can do Brooklyn and Queens together. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 16 12:05:33 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by JerBear on Sun Dec 15 16:40:48 2019. Why would they suddenly decide to do that now? |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Dec 17 20:47:16 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 16 12:05:33 2019. They hada meeting at Queens Borough Hall Monday evening and released a very rough sketch of a map there. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Dec 17 22:00:11 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. the preliminary plan book is due the end of the month, the final plan in April. Happy? now stop asking. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 10:29:07 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by The Silence on Tue Dec 17 22:00:11 2019. When will the Brooklyn report be issued? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 18 11:53:32 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 10:29:07 2019. Existing Conditions around April. Draft report next December. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 18 13:50:14 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. First Draft Map |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Dec 18 14:52:17 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 18 13:50:14 2019. Am I seeing this right? NYCT service on Lakeville Rd between Union and Hillside? A bus up Winchester Blvd / Douglaston Parkway? |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Dec 18 16:48:13 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. Looks like much more transferring for passengers along with a lot of service cuts on some local streets such as along 109th Avenue in South Ozone Park, Braddock Avenue, Hempstead Avenue and 212th Street/212th Place in Bellerose. A possible new route along 73rd Avenue in Fresh Meadows to Kew Gardens incorporating a segment of the old Q74 route. It looks like the Q8 been rerouted to Brookdale Hospital and the Q7 route up to Atlantic Avenue or Fulton street in Cypress Hills. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Dec 18 18:28:39 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Dec 18 16:48:13 2019. It also looks like there sending the Q52SBS to the Gateway Center Mall in Brooklyn via the Belt Parkway. It also looks like a route has been extended to the North Shore Hospital in Manhasset along Community Drive but why not go into the former Macy's Parking lot to instead turn around connecting closer to the buses along Northern Blvd? Another bus has replaced bus service to the LIRR Little Neck Station instead of thru service along Little Neck Parkway plus it looks like segments of the Q110 and Q36 along Jamaica Avenue have been combined thus eliminating bus service along a small segment of Hempstead Avenue, 212th street/212th Place and Braddock Aavenue. I guess if there not smart enough to figure out how to serve these remote areas with a bus then just eliminate it and make people walk a half of a mile or give the commuter vans the business. seems like a bold plan but one that also seems to be very penny wise and pound foolish! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Dec 18 19:11:35 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 18 13:50:14 2019. Just as I feared. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 19:28:23 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by G1Ravage on Wed Dec 18 19:11:35 2019. What did you fear? |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 18 20:16:29 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Dec 18 13:50:14 2019. Have they shifted the Q35 in the Rockaway peninsula off Newport Av onto Rockaway Beach Blvd and truncated the Q22 ?The always rather obscure Q111 service service into Nassau County down Peninsula Blvd through Woodmere seems to be gone. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Dec 18 21:54:21 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 19:28:23 2019. That the Q34 would be re-routed out of Mitchell Gardens to provide a "straighter" route with fewer turns. The seniors in the neighborhood won't be happy. I'll be mildly inconvenienced. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 23:36:16 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 18 20:16:29 2019. It looks like they rerouted the Q35 and cut back the Q22. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 08:17:01 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 23:36:16 2019. I doubt they will backfill Q35 with more trips to compensate for the remaining Q22's that get that far west. They can assign some older Artics to the Q35, use as an excuse to not increase frequency, and boast they are increasing capacity.Newport Av is a legacy from Green Bus lines. I am surprised it has lasted beyond Walder's 2010 cuts. The Q37 seems to have survived. They could have told people to walk over to the Q10. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 19 09:16:31 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 08:17:01 2019. But isn’t Newport to be preferred over the parallel section of RBB?I have always thought of Newport as having more surrounding activity despite RBB’s wider roadway, but I’m not around there as much as I used to. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 09:36:44 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 18 23:36:16 2019. And last year the cmmunity opposed the Q35 rerouting so they rescinded it. So much for the effort being customer driven as they claim. They are just doing what they want. I hope there is widespread opposition. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 09:38:47 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Wed Dec 18 16:48:13 2019. The only reason for the Q8 extension is so they can move the B15 from New Lots to Linden to provide a faster airport trip. Probably won’t make any stops on Linden or just one or two. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 13:23:52 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 09:38:47 2019. My guess is they'll reroute the B15 over to the Gateway Center Mall (if it survives at all) and tell former B15 passengers along New Lots Avenue that they could now take the Q8 bus and transfer to the Q10 route or to the Q6 route to access JFK Airport. That will save them a ton of money!!! All they need to do is provide additional free transfers! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 14:57:52 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 13:23:52 2019. Doubt they will do that because the B15 was started to give Bed Stuy employment opportunities at the airport. Stopping that would be politically incorrect. I think my idea of moving it to Linden is more probable. |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Thu Dec 19 17:19:19 2019, in response to Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Chicago44 on Wed Dec 11 16:53:06 2019. It MAY go into OVERTIME!! |
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Posted by B53RICH on Thu Dec 19 17:49:07 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Dec 18 14:52:17 2019. Another "Am I seeing this right"?, looks to me like the Q54 will be sent along Hillside Ave. instead of Jamaica Ave. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 19 17:58:21 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Transitbuff on Thu Dec 19 17:19:19 2019. Sudden death? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Dec 19 17:58:30 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Transitbuff on Thu Dec 19 17:19:19 2019. Sudden death? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 18:04:43 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by B53RICH on Thu Dec 19 17:49:07 2019. Jamaica Av in downtown Jamaica used to get the B22 - the Atlantic Av bus. But they lost that to Archer Ave, which is the Q24 now. So Jamaica Av loses another bus. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 19 18:06:41 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by B53RICH on Thu Dec 19 17:49:07 2019. Yes, indeed! Maybe to 165th St Terminal.Back to Northeast Queens for a sec, it seems they are giving up on a through Little Neck Parkway route, and getting more access both to LIJ and to Creedmoor facilities. LIJ would get both the Union and Hillside routes at its fairly new little bus terminal on property. And Creedmoor would get more service. But it still surprises me that Little Neck Parkway would get the boot in place of Winchester Blvd - Douglaston Pkwy. Also to note: the Q12 does not go all the way to the city line but ends seemingly at Marathon Parkway / LIE (if I am interpreting it right). That would like mean the n20G would waive its Queens closed-door policy east of Marathon. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 18:10:38 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 19 18:06:41 2019. When you continue through form the N20G to N20H, do they count that as a transfer on what was once a thru route ? |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 18:29:28 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 09:36:44 2019. It looks like no more duplicative bus service whatsoever, additional bus transfers for passengers to complete a trip and much more walking for passengers in remote areas! When will the layoffs be coming? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 18:30:27 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 18:29:28 2019. Any new three legged transfers? |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 18:45:51 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 18:29:28 2019. All over the place! They'll need to impose your time based unlimited transfer policy to be partially successful! |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 19:56:50 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 18:29:28 2019. If OMNY allows 2 transfers, they feel at liberty to make you do so. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 20:48:49 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 19 19:56:50 2019. It looks like thru Francis Lewis Blvd. bus service so that passengers needing access to the subway would probably be allowed another transfer to an east/west bus. Along Utopia Parkway it looks like thru service is also being done and don't think direct service to the IRT Flushing Line would still be provided so former Q16 passengers along Utopia Parkway as well as Francis Lewis Blvd. would need to transfer to another east/west route. It looks like there also combining the Q15 with the Q48 route LaGuardia Airport route so no wonder they recently converted the Q15/Q15A to articulated bus service. It looks like the Q34 will finally serve Willets Pint Blvd in its entirety up to Fort Totten and travel along Union Street replacing Q20A/Q20B routes along Union Street. It looks like the Q64 is being rerouted to no longer serve Downtown, Flushing but travel north up to Beechurst and the Q25 would take College Point Blvd north and other changes to the Q20 and the Q25 routes in the north.. So many various changes to end route duplication but will it work and will passengers be satisfied with these changes? |
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Posted by caine515 on Thu Dec 19 23:03:19 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 18 20:16:29 2019. I hope they add extra service to the Q35 when needed. During the summer its's packed |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Dec 19 23:30:50 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 20:48:49 2019. Q64 doesn't go to Flushing. You mean the Q65? |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:05:15 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 19 09:36:44 2019. You did your fascinating redesign of Brooklyn. Would you consider doing your own for Queens? |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:06:13 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Dec 19 18:06:41 2019. I fully agree that LNP should be served over Douglaston/Winchester, though I thought that could use a coverage route. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:07:09 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Nyctransitman on Thu Dec 19 20:48:49 2019. That Q34 idea was proposed in the 1980s. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Dec 20 14:23:42 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:05:15 2019. If they paid me to do one. I have no faith that they will even consider my Brooklyn one. I have asked for a meeting with them to discuss it several times and have not gotten a response. They only say they will look at the ideas which really doesn’t. Ran anything.If I took the time, I could probably come up with better ideas than they will come up with. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Dec 20 15:51:18 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:05:15 2019. Do you know how I can better publicize my ideas so more people can see them? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 20 17:26:17 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by caine515 on Thu Dec 19 23:03:19 2019. They now add extra weekend Q35's between Riis and Brooklyn College. But if the Q22 goes away, that doesn't help that. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Dec 21 08:39:07 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by Union Tpke on Fri Dec 20 12:06:13 2019. Looks like in this case Douglaston-Winchester would be a branch of the Q43, and then going all the way to Great Neck. A Great Neck - Jamaica route only currently exists with the rush-hour only n26. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Sat Dec 21 15:07:23 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Dec 19 23:30:50 2019. Yes that was a typo! |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Sat Dec 21 15:07:36 2019, in response to Re: Queens Bus Service Redesign., posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Dec 19 23:30:50 2019. Yes that was a typo! |
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