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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:30:40 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 19 12:55:21 2017. If you consider returning the Thruway and Northway speeds to 65 and 70 mph as well as other roadways all over the state "specific sections" and not repealing the law, we are arguing over semantics. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:32:04 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 19 14:31:08 2017. There really isn't a reason for non-limited access highways to have speeds higher than 55 mph unless you are talking about a ten mile stretch of road with no intersections or driveways. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:35:11 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 19 14:59:02 2017. The distinction between state and city DOT as to responsibilities of each are so muddled, and probably intentionally, I don't think anyone who has responsibility for what. I do know that city DOT has sole responsibility whether or not whether to allow buses. They have also expressed a desire to allow trucks. And Knapp to Pennsylvanis probably would be the section where they would allow it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:36:18 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 19 14:59:02 2017. Actually Knapp to Cross Bay. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:44:57 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jun 19 13:05:43 2017. If the old Ocean Parkway bridge had a design speed of 50 mph, why was the speed limit once 55 mph. Fifty can't possibly be true and the design speed for the current bridge has to be 60 or 65 mph, maybe not higher because of the slight elevation, not because of the wide lanes and shoulders and extended entrance and exit ramps. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jun 19 16:55:36 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 09:53:02 2017. Flatbush Ave falls within that stretch, and I'm sorry but I don't think that cloverleaf as it exists now can facilitate safe on/off for a 70 MPH speed limit, especially on the south side.Of course, this conversation is more theoretical than anything else. Except for overnights, how often can you go 70 on the Belt long enough to save more than a minute or two? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:02:22 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 14:54:04 2017. You're right about the Belt. Dunno about about the others except the Cross Bronx. I never thought that one is mileage based, since there are no gaps in the numbering, but now that I look at it, I see that they probably tried to base it on mileage, but did a somewhat half-assed job at it. Some of the exit numbers are a full 2 mikes off the milepost number.Anyway, the Taconic, at 104 miles, is the longest one. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:04:03 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 09:34:07 2017. It still has a number of at-grade intersections, at its very beginning near Valhalla, and later above Route 6. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:08:57 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:30:40 2017. No, there is still a statute that the state speed limit is 55. Exceptions can be made, but the statute stands. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 19:53:49 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jun 19 08:18:09 2017. Actually no. The non-lazy cops usually go for the leader of the pack since that's the one they clocked. Sometimes they'll pull over a whole lane. The trick to avoiding it is, the moment the lights come up behind you, pull out of the way and stop immediately. The one they have to chase the farthest gets the "prize". Source: Ohio state trooper. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:07:32 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 09:43:53 2017. Incorrect. When you are in a small town, you will see signs stating "area speed limit 45" or "town speed limit 30". This is letting you know all unposted roads are that speed. Posted limits can set it to any speed higher or lower than those. The sign "state speed limit 55" is advising you of the same, on the state level. That is why you will rarely (if ever?) see a sign in NYS that simply says "Speed Limit 55" (I've only seen them in construction zones) without the word State. They've had to replace a few on I95 through Albany (college student thefts), and the new ones still come with the "State" moniker.And before you say "they must have hundreds of spares when they raised the limits to 65!" they could cut off or block the word "State" with minimal effort, and chose not to. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:20:58 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 14:54:04 2017. I-890's are a coincidence - they happen to have exits spaced roughly a mile apart. Otherwise the exit that corresponds to Thruway Exit 26 would be known as 890 exit 0 rather than exit 1.I was hoping we'd have switched to metric before switching our exit numbering; this makes it even less likely... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:24:50 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jun 19 08:21:33 2017. Once on a highway, without congestion, I almost always feel I can do 70 safely (in terms of avoiding accidents), but one thing that always concerns me is the merging / acceleration onto the highway. I'm not sure that certain entrances on the Belt would be practical as they are now if traffic is moderate and everyone is zooming by you at 70.This is solved by making the right lane "speed limit 50" and the rest 65. It is also solved by people paying attention and letting the guy running out of "runway" in (either by moving left one lane, or slowing down). The Masspike is 65 with almost no entrance ramps and as terrible as Masshole drivers are, they at least get this right. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:43:52 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:04:03 2017. Yup, "controlled" by stop signs. Many even allow turning on/off the taconic, both left and right. Between that and the deer it's stupid to go much faster than 63 up north. Also they don't salt much. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:08:12 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:02:22 2017. The New England Thruway portion continues the numbering of the Bruckner (I-95 portion), but does so consecutively.It is fairly obvious given all of the otherwise unrelated suffixed exits: 1A 1B 1C 2A 2B 5A 5B. I'd like to see them do the Thruway. If they do, regardless of how they handle the I-90 portion, the I-87 portion should continue the Deegan numbering, with numbering continuing onto the Northway. No resets. I think the Taconic should have been treated as a continuation of the Bronx River Parkway, but starting it from Valhalla is not bad. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:12:13 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:20:58 2017. Exit 0 is not commonly used (but not completely unused), so I-890 is compliant. I-890 is not a coincidence: 4C is unrelated to 4A/4B |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:16:26 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jun 19 17:08:57 2017. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:18:35 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:32:04 2017. Country roads have such speed limits. Back in 2007, that was the speed limit of NY-18 in Orleans County and part of Niagara County. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:32:36 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:43:52 2017. Oh deer. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:39:34 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:07:32 2017. Why would you even have to speculate? The statute is clear:Except as provided in subdivision (g) of this section and except when a special hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with subdivision (a) of this section or when maximum speed limits have been established as hereinafter authorized, no person shall drive a vehicle at a speed in excess of fifty-five miles per hour.VTL § 1180(b) [emphasis added]. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:42:53 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:39:34 2017. VTL § 1180-a establishes specifically those roads where a speed limit of 65 is allowed. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 22:03:47 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:08:12 2017. the I-87 portion should continue the Deegan numbering, with numbering continuing onto the Northway. No resets.After initial confusion, having the numbering on the Northway count to NYC would be a benefit. For 90 though, the Thruway needs to be treated as a "special" case due to the direction change at 24. For that reason the numbering should stay continuous. Otherwise, following standard interstate mileage conventions, the numbers would need to begin descending from there to a 0 point at the PA border. The road is continuous making this switch an unnecessary confusion, especially since the switch is occurring in the middle of the most populous region in NY outside the NYC area. Anyone passing through trying to count miles would have to know the maximum number before the switch (I-87 MP148/I-90 "new" MP348) and subtract to figure out a distance between the two points, eliminating the benefit of mileage based numbering (which is knowing how far to an arbitrary exit). Someone going from current 23 to current 25 will be going from future exit 142 to future exit 343. They would have to do (148-142)+(348-343) to figure out the distance is 11 miles. Travel patterns have evolved to treat this as one road rather than two, so the mileage should be as such. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 22:07:26 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:42:53 2017. Thanks. I'm not typically one to look things up, just deduce local laws. Since the Governor and the DOT Commissioner pass these signs frequently, if there was any place in NY where we could trust their accuracy, it would be here. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 22:13:32 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jun 19 16:55:36 2017. Except for overnights, how often can you go 70 on the Belt long enough to save more than a minute or two?I thought about this recently, and came to this conclusion: if by going faster for 2 minutes, you pass 30 cars, that's 30 cars behind you when you hit a lane reduction merge. Every one of those cars that is not able to keep up with traffic is additional time saved, since you are now in front of them. The simplest version of this problem is this: 2 lanes are about to become 1 with no shoulder. Whether you've passed the truck who must drive extra slow due to the clearances is the difference between getting through this zone at 50 and getting through it at 30. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 22:28:29 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 22:03:47 2017. I agree. The west to east convention of exit numbering is arbitrary and it this is certainly a valid reason for violating it. I don't think that many people are even aware that there is a rule for west to east.The free portion of I-90, along with the Berkshire Spur, should then count backwards from the Thruway part of I-90. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 20 08:01:54 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 22:13:32 2017. Along those lines, we also know how there are driving trips where leaving 1 to 2 minutes early routinely saves you 5 to 10 minutes because you beat a small wave of traffic that enabled you to beat a larger wave of traffic that ends up almost making the difference between "smooth sailing" and getting stuck.Despite all that, however, I would suspect that by raising the speed limit to 70 on the Belt, cars would take on a new average speed, so that if anything the current speeders would be passing less cars, so not saving all that much time, unless of course they go to even higher speeds. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 20 08:16:39 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:24:50 2017. Passing a typical on-ramp while on the main road, right lane of a highway, I usually go with a 1 second rule. If at the first possible merge point the entering car is there a full second a head of then I will break slightly for a merge. In general, though it's just one of those judgment calls that no rule can solve, since all on-ramps are different and drivers have varying levels of ability / preferred spatial clearance to merge. If there was to be a rule, it would have to be "merge."At the very least though, as I've said before, I wish the "yield" signs would disappear at highway entrances. Unless you really are supposed to stop until you find a clearance in the highway traffic, "yield" signs are inappropriate. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 20 13:47:29 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 19 20:07:32 2017. So the law was not repealed. But returning most or all of the roads to the higher limit before there was a 55 mph state speed limit has the same effect. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 20 13:48:54 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 19 21:18:35 2017. Okay, but I have not seen any country roads with a speed limit higher than 55. As I said there must be a great distance without any driveways or intersections for the limit to be that high. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 20 14:04:18 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 20 13:48:54 2017. I meant the speed limit was 55. I misread your post. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 20 15:39:20 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jun 20 13:47:29 2017. They haven't returned most or all roads to a higher limit. They have returned very few. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 20 15:41:16 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Jun 20 08:16:39 2017. I agree! "Yield" is not the same as "merge". |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 20 19:00:19 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:27:35 2017. How do we know it doesn't work? Limited access roads with higher speeds have proven safer than two lane roads with driveways and traffic lights where the speed is slightly lower.You're mixing in factors that have nothing to do with the design of limited-access highways for specific speeds, and more to do with the fact that they're limited-access highways in the first place. And yes they are designed for slightly higher speeds of five or ten mph to provide a cushion of safety. And that doesn't work. Someone told me he recently received a speeding ticket in Georgia because he was going at 83 mph. The officer instructed him to sign that he was doing 85 mph. He told the officer but I wasn't doing 85 mph. When he got home he found out my the officer insisted he admit to 85 mph. The fine for 83 mph was $225. The fine which he had to pay after admitting to 85 mph was $425. Now you tell me if the locality there was more concerned about safety or revenue. That has nothing to do with road design or speed limits, and everything to do with dishonesty on the part of the officer. PS I doubt there are any locations in Georgia where 83 mph is legal. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 20 19:20:00 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 19 16:32:04 2017. There really isn't a reason for non-limited access highways to have speeds higher than 55 mph unless you are talking about a ten mile stretch of road with no intersections or driveways.??? Plenty of other states seem to think there is a reason for non-limited-access highways to have speed limits greater than 55. I can see that NY doesn't want to make an exception for the few such highways that might exist in NY, but there's no inherent reason 55 should be the maximum speed for 2 lane roads. And actually, plenty of roads in the southern tier, away from the few cities, are empty and straight with relatively few cross roads. In most other states those roads would have a speed limit of 60 or 65. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 20 19:27:11 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jun 20 15:39:20 2017. They have returned very few.Really? The Taconic was 60 long ago and is now 55. What else? Long Island Parkways? |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jun 20 19:50:38 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 20 19:00:19 2017. The only place 83MPH is legal is along SR 130 in Texas, and people still blow by you. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 20 20:37:24 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jun 20 19:50:38 2017. I'm pretty sure there are a number of roads out west where the limit is 90, and I believe Montana has roads that don't have set speed limits (the limit is whatever's appropriate for the conditions). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 20 21:09:48 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 20 19:27:11 2017. Huh? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 21 07:47:35 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 20 19:20:00 2017. Wasn't the desire to reduce fuel consumption a factor in play when they were setting speed limits at some point? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jun 21 10:42:47 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 20 19:27:11 2017. Did you read my post backwards? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jun 21 10:43:42 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 21 07:47:35 2017. That was in the 70s. That problem is over. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Jun 21 10:45:54 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 20 20:37:24 2017. I don't think any have 90. Some have 80.In Europe, the limit on interstates is often 80 (130 KM). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 21 10:56:01 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by fdtutf on Tue Jun 20 20:37:24 2017. Montana got rid of "reasonable and prudent" YEARS ago. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 21 11:18:25 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 21 07:47:35 2017. Sí |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 21 11:28:33 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 21 10:56:01 2017. 1998 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 21 12:10:51 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jun 21 11:28:33 2017. Yes. Then they imposed a conventional speed limit of 75 in 1999. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 14:01:26 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 20 21:09:48 2017. What other roads (other than the Taconic) have they not returned to their old speed limits that existed before the state instituted a state-wide speed limit of 55? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 14:02:53 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jun 21 10:45:54 2017. Some toll road in Texas has 85, I believe. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 20:20:48 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 14:01:26 2017. So now that I state my question more clearly no one has an answer? :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 21 20:59:02 2017, in response to Re: SBS Will Not Solve Beach Commuter's Headaches, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 21 20:20:48 2017. I don't know of any. |
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