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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 10:41:46 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 09:12:18 2016. Listen you DICKHEAD MORON, the route map that the MTA proposed was done BEFORE the terms of NICE's contract was revealed. My post stands! Yours doesn't. Because you are STUPID AND LAZY and don't know SHIT about Transportation Planning or public policy or contract law! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 10:42:25 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 08:12:05 2016. But now the case is different. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 11:22:56 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 10:41:46 2016. OK, Stupid, here are the facts that you were too lazy to be aware of or look up yourself:"27 of the 48 lines may be cut in July" http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/03/02/mta-may-cut-half-of-long-islands-bus-service/ DIDN'T HAPPEN. MTA kept up their minimal subsidy as a stop-gap until they killed LIB. THEN: "the n2/8, n14, n17, n46, n50, n51, n62, n73, n74, n80, n81), the n19 will be cut back to Sunrise Mall (That's ELEVEN, NOT TWENTY-SEVEN) http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/2511066-nice-bus-continues-diminished-new-york.html#ixzz4NvDRaod2 FIVE OF ELEVEN resurfaced as Community Shuttles http://www.nicebus.com/Maps-Schedules/Bus-Maps-and-Schedules.aspx So we are down SIX, NOT TWENTY-SEVEN. NEXT TIME learn to read and not attack who you do not like. But you are thin-skinned idiot like Donald Trump, so it won't happen. You are nothing but a menial mail room clerk who knows nothing of Transport Planning or Legal contracts. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 23 11:37:15 2016, in response to Mangano Arrested, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 20 12:14:55 2016. This is how it would go:Nassau: Hey MTA, we're thinking we'd like you take back our bus system. MTA: Ok, but you're going to have to give us a much bigger subsidy this time around. Nassau: Forget it, we'll keep NICE. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 11:41:20 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 23 11:37:15 2016. Assuming a dialogue gets that far, that's exactly what will happen.MTA wants high density routes. Most suburban bus routes don't fit that description. Maybe they should look at ST business model and use some school bus companies. Why should MTA subsidize Nassau when they don't do so for Suffolk, Westechester, Putnam, Orange or Rockland. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:48:32 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 11:22:56 2016. You are nothing but a menial mail room clerk who knows nothing of Transport PlanningWanna bet? I'll bet you a three-year absence from this website. Or are you too CHICKEN, you ASSHOLE?? OK, Stupid, here are the facts that you were too lazy to be aware of or look up yourself:Listen you DICKHEAD MORON, the route map that the MTA proposed was done BEFORE the terms of NICE's contract was revealed. My post stands! Yours doesn't. Because you are STUPID AND LAZY and don't know SHIT about Transportation Planning or public policy or contract law! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:49:25 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 11:41:20 2016. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're clueless!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:50:12 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 23 11:37:15 2016. No. They can take the same subsidy NICE gets and just cut a few more routes to make up for their higher labor costs, etc. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 12:17:41 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:48:32 2016. MTA was NOT bluffing and that is exactly what would have happened - don't try to weasel out if it.CONVERSATION OVER. (Do all of us a favor and vanish like angel dust - I am not going anywhere). |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 12:19:48 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 11:50:12 2016. TWENTY ONE more routes is more than "a few", which would mean the whole south shore east of Freeport is gone.Learn to READ. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 23 15:57:40 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 12:19:48 2016. It's like I'm talking to a wall. Learn how to read. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 17:41:44 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Oct 23 15:57:40 2016. SERIOUS ADVICE: Spend time reading and learning to interpret and not talking to walls. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:05 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 12:17:41 2016. Listen you DICKHEAD MORON, the route map that the MTA proposed was done BEFORE the terms of NICE's contract was revealed. My post stands! Yours doesn't. Because you are STUPID AND LAZY and don't know SHIT about Transportation Planning or public policy or contract law! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:12 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 17:41:44 2016. Listen you DICKHEAD MORON, the route map that the MTA proposed was done BEFORE the terms of NICE's contract was revealed. My post stands! Yours doesn't. Because you are STUPID AND LAZY and don't know SHIT about Transportation Planning or public policy or contract law! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 17:59:13 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:05 2016. You said that 3 times. Guess you are out of ammunition. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 18:00:34 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:12 2016. 4 times now. No hope for you. Somewhere beyond all that neurosis, there must be a brain of some sort. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 23 19:39:04 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 17:03:42 2016. But didn’t the MTA also own LI Bus? |
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Posted by Transportation Hub on Sun Oct 23 20:22:40 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 23 19:39:04 2016. Yes. They used to. |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Oct 23 21:26:07 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 23 19:39:04 2016. LI Bus was actually "owned" by Nassau County and operated by MTA under contract. Just as is NICE is the operator and Nassau County is the owner. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 23 23:18:12 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by northshore on Sun Oct 23 21:26:07 2016. That makes a bit of sense. Now I’m not sure if it is still the case, but at one time the entire NYC transit system was owned by the City of NY and merely operated by the NYCTA and its successor the MTA (although the NYCTA is still the legal operator of the NYCTS due to outstanding bonds). |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 24 17:53:00 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by northshore on Sun Oct 23 21:26:07 2016. And the MTA as contractor to operate it did not want to subsidize it, but wound up doing so, until they threw down the gauntlet and put 27 routes on the hit list. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:02:53 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:05 2016. Bump |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:03:34 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 18:00:34 2016. If you knew how to read, I wouldn't need to keep repeating it. My point stands. You're wrong. Ha! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:03:45 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 23 17:44:12 2016. Bump |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:05:41 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 24 17:53:00 2016. But with the amount of subsidy that NICE got, the MTA probably wouldn't have had to shut down all 27 routes. That's what you don't understand because you know nothing about this topic. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 07:57:35 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:05:41 2016. What you don't understand is that is what MTA was about to do given the subsidy number they would get from Nassau at the time, and MTA's own subsidies were about to cease.Since you can never site any references, you are the one who knows absolutely nothing. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 08:09:18 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 00:05:41 2016. And again, your general mental inferiority and narcissistic personality disorder are rampant and obvious to the world:1) Too lazy to research a topic, 2) Turns own amateurish opinions into fact, 3) Cannot accept take responsibility nor admit fault. 4) Cannot function normally in adult society. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 08:29:48 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 07:57:35 2016. I understand that fully and I addressed that in my post!!! Learn how to read!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 08:31:14 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 08:09:18 2016. So in other words you know I'm correct but instead of admitting such you make a completely irrelevant post. Thank you. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 08:58:08 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 08:31:14 2016. You have done nothing to show you know a damned thing about Nassau County buses, or anything else for that matter. "Probably" and "would have" without any substantiation are nothing but your own opinions. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 26 12:43:43 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 08:58:08 2016. I don't need to know anything besides the news articles posted here. It obvious that if the terms given to NICE were not the same as the terms that MTA used to prepare their earlier estimates, then you can not directly compare the two when discussing what would happen if NICE got the boot and the MTA came back in. This is basic logic. You don't understand it at all. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 12:52:07 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 26 12:43:43 2016. And just who posted them ? ME. You didn't know one way or the other.The numbers included MTA subsides becoming zero, hence 27 routes killed. And if they come back in, the MTA subsidy will remain zero. That you cannot accept. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 26 12:58:52 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 12:52:07 2016. Why would the MTA subsidy be zero if NICE received a subsidy????? You have no answer for that! You're clueless. That you cannot accept. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 13:20:56 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 26 12:58:52 2016. Because MTA had stated they would no longer subsidize NICE, were never supposed to subsidize suburban bus systems that were owned by the County and MTA was nothing but a contractor. That's why 27 routes were to go away.That is what you cannot get through your head despite being stated repeatedly by me and others. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 07:12:57 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 13:20:56 2016. You clearly have no clue how the real world works. The county is STILL subsidizing NICE and NICE cut routes!!! |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:00:13 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 07:12:57 2016. NICE cut SIX routes.MTA was to have cut TWENTY-SEVEN routes. MTA was to cut all subsidies. You saw the evidence in the artciles. The only explanation that you cannot grasp is your stupidity and narcissism. The more you carry on, the more it shows you are a stupid foamer. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:34:59 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:00:13 2016. Wrong. MTA wasn't cutting all subsidies. You're clueless. And you still don't understand how the situation has changed since the MTA produced that plan! LOL! Stick to NJ issues! |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:41:53 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:34:59 2016. Yes they were to cut all subsidies, which they had no obligation to make in the first place. MTA ceased being their contractor, and LIB vanished from their website the next day. That was the end of MTA involvement.If you can't grasp it, I don't care. I am right. Your rumor mongering is having no impact. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:45:18 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:41:53 2016. My mistake, I was referring to NASSAU subsidizing LIB, not the other way around, when I just made that statement.Anyhow, just like NICE isnt subsidizing bus service, the MTA wouldn't either. The MTA would come back in as a contractor just like NICE is now. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:49:59 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:45:18 2016. Nassau is subsidizing NICE, and they subsidized LIB.Contractor does not constitute subsidy. MTA could have continued as contractor on a break-even basis, but made very clear their subsidy was to end. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:58:01 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:45:18 2016. I don't know why I go through so much trouble for you, such a demeaning person, but official document from Nassau County Comptroller:http://archive.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/Comptroller/documents/MTALIBusStudyFINAL.pdf Go down to page 4 (If you go on making a fuss, you are totally hopeless) "The MTA served notice on October 7, 2010 to the Nassau County Legislature that it will no longer subsidize the Long Island Bus System (LIBS), and requested that Nassau County increase its subsidy from $9.1 million to its full projected subsidy of $36.1 million for fiscal year 2011. It is anticipated that the MTA will follow through with the mandatory notice to discontinue LIBS service leaving Nassau Commuters stranded with significant economic damage to the County economy." |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 27 19:48:07 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:34:59 2016. Wow.Dead wrong, and still won't admit it. Not that it really makes a difference. Loser bitch. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 27 19:52:12 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 13:20:56 2016. Oh,he gets it,alright.This is how he pretends to be clever. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 27 23:53:50 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:49:59 2016. Nassau is subsidizing NICE, and they subsidized LIB.I know. Duh. Contractor does not constitute subsidy.I know. Duh. MTA could have continued as contractor on a break-even basis, but made very clear their subsidy was to end.I know. Duh. Way to miss the point. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 27 23:54:51 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:58:01 2016. Huh? Where did I say otherwise? You are completely clueless. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 28 00:03:21 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 27 19:48:07 2016. Wrong. MTA wasn't cutting all subsidies. You're clueless. And you still don't understand how the situation has changed since the MTA produced that plan! LOL! Stick to NJ issues! Suck it, pussy choker! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 28 00:04:02 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 27 19:52:12 2016. That doesn't make any sense, genius. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 28 01:00:58 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 28 00:04:02 2016. Hah😂!Of course it doesn't to someone who cant tell his asshole from elbow. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Oct 28 08:54:23 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 28 01:00:58 2016. Says the damn racist. LOL. Killed whitey lately? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 28 17:39:42 2016, in response to Re: Mangano Arrested, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 28 00:03:21 2016. Nassau County Comptroller's office document right in front of you that says all MTA subsidies were to be cut off and you still can't accept it. You're functionally illiterate. |
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