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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:07:17 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 22:59:11 2016. That was not the sign I was questioning. It was the one right after that which is ON THE ENTRANCE RAMP and states, EXIT ONLY.I have never seen an EXIT ONLY sign on an entrance ramp. And where else have you seem an "exit only" sign sign on a local street? It should have just said Atlantic City Expressway ONLY." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:14:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 23:02:11 2016. Your initial statements why you didn't want to read the report which you still have not read were not relevant at all. They were opinions based on erroneous statements.No arguments shoukd have been necessary for you to read the report. If you weren't interested in reading it, no replies were necessary. That wou,d have shown no interest. Instead, you chose to argue for 100 or 200 posts why you shouldn't read it. And when someone finally did read it, rather than having an honest discussion, ridiculous statements were made like passengers have no interest in if fare machine kiosks are working your not in order to disagree with my assertion that the report omitting many relevant topics that needed discussion like fare evasion or fare machine reliability. YOU AND OTHERS HAD NO INTENTION OF AGREEING WITH ANYTHING I WROTE EVEN BEFORE YOU READ WHAT I WROTE IN THE REPORT. That was my point. That n one wanted an honest discussion. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:14:50 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 15 23:03:10 2016. That is exactly what he said. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:22:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 23:04:12 2016. My point was that bus stops at commercial intersections are first cleared by the commercial establishments near them before the city clears the bus stop whether it is on the sidewalk or the median. Therefore sidewalk bus stops are safer than median bus stops. And the community apparently agrees.And I have no idea what you mean by the existing plan being preferable to the proposed plan. They are one in the same. Rather than showing how waiting in medians have proven to be safer, as usual you ask me to come up with statistics showing how they are less safe. I would take the word of people who,lived their entire life in the community over the so-called DOT experts and outsiders such as yourself. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:31:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 23:04:12 2016. "Plows plow streets, not bus stops..."Totally irrelevant to what I stated. I asked you for proof that that the snow was cleared in less than three days because that is what the newspaper accounts stated. I asked you because the first time I made that statement, your response was "None of that is actually true." Since you made that claim, it is your job to back it up. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:31:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 23:04:12 2016. My point was that bus stops at commercial intersections are first cleared by the commercial establishments near them before the city clears the bus stop whether it is on the sidewalk or the median. Therefore sidewalk bus stops are safer than median bus stops. And the community apparently agrees.And I have no idea what you mean by the existing plan being preferable to the proposed plan. They are one in the same. Rather than showing how waiting in medians have proven to be safer, as usual you ask me to come up with statistics showing how they are less safe. I would take the word of people who,lived their entire life in the community over the so-called DOT experts and outsiders such as yourself. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:34:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 18:55:23 2016. Prove that those who know their community best support them.Main roadway bus lanes cause many issues, like increasing traffic congestion by the elimination of a lane and infrequent access to the service road which may have less traffic but is not readily accessible. Also, when the main roadway is hopelessly clogged with traffic, it will be difficult for SBS and express buses to pass stopped local buses in bus stops at several locations. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 16 13:35:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Sun Aug 14 23:15:12 2016. A Must Have,if you want to play here.You aint careful,you Will HULK OUT..wanting to tear a new portal to the resident turtle. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:35:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 15 19:31:02 2016. I only want to exclude those who are not interested in having an honest discussion. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 16 13:38:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:31:18 2016. The True BRT PLAN for Hyland Blvd had median bus lanes and stations.That didnt go over so well with the riders,nor folks along the route. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:41:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 15 23:07:13 2016. Passengers are not complaining about a functionally free ride.They are complaining about the risk of getting a $150 summons through no fault of their own, then having to lose a day's pay to fight the fine. Again there are numerous documented cases of this occurring. There was also the inconvenience of having to get off at the next stop with packages in order to pay your fare. There were so many complaints that the policy was changed. Now the MTA is asking you to pay when you get off instead because supposedly fare inspectors have a list of broken machines that they can check before they issue you a summons when you tell them the stop you get on. Of course there is still the risk that their list is incomplete and you still will receive a summons. People have been told to pay at the next stop and inspectors have gotten on before and given summonses before people had the opportunity to pay. That is why a "free ride" is not the only issue here. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:05:11 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:07:17 2016. That was not the sign I was questioning.I find that hard to believe, but not impossible. It was the one right after that which is ON THE ENTRANCE RAMP and states, EXIT ONLY.Is that not what I showed in the image in my post? I have never seen an EXIT ONLY sign on an entrance ramp.Whatever you say. That's your experience. Doesn't make it a rule. And where else have you seem an "exit only" sign sign on a local street? It should have just said Atlantic City Expressway ONLY."I addressed all of that in my post. Did you even read my post??????? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:13:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:14:23 2016. Your initial statements why you didn't want to read the report which you still have not read were not relevant at all.How do you know I haven't read it? Anyhow, no, they were completely relevant. Your track record shows your reports and articles and letters and posts to have little redeeming value. And since my statement was in a post about a new report you posted, it was relevant. They were opinions based on erroneous statements.Wrong. They were educated opinions based on countless prior documents that we have discussed with you. No arguments shoukd have been necessary for you to read the report.No, YOU (or your proxy) argued. If you weren't interested in reading it, no replies were necessary.I never said my reply was necessary. But it sure was relevant. Instead, you chose to argue for 100 or 200 posts why you shouldn't read it.No, YOU (or your proxy) argued for 100 posts. We just made an initial relevant statement. Your disagreement with our initial relevant statement was the source of the "100 post argument." Get your facts straight. It takes two sides to have an argument. If you didn't want to discuss why we didn't need to read your report, then you shouldn't have replied to that post. And when someone finally did read it, rather than having an honest discussion, ridiculous statements were made like passengers have no interest in if fare machine kiosks are working your not in order to disagree with my assertion that the report omitting many relevant topics that needed discussion like fare evasion or fare machine reliability. YOU AND OTHERS HAD NO INTENTION OF AGREEING WITH ANYTHING I WROTE EVEN BEFORE YOU READ WHAT I WROTE IN THE REPORT.Completely wrong. You don't know when anyone first read it. The statements were not ridiculous. And unlike you, we have open minds when we read something. That was my point. That n one wanted an honest discussion.The only people who didn't want to have an honest discussion IIRC were you, your proxy, and Edwards. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:13:44 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:14:50 2016. No it's not. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:14:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:22:47 2016. My point was that bus stops at commercial intersections are first cleared by the commercial establishments near them before the city clears the bus stop whether it is on the sidewalk or the median.And they're telling you that you're wrong. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:28:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:35:32 2016. That would be yourself and your proxy!!!!!!!! You insulted the rest of us! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:26:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:05:11 2016. I passed by again today and that may have been the sign. At night it appeared to be closer to the entrance ramp. I will try to pass by again to make sure if I have the time.Anyway, on Atlantic Avenue, the sign properly states Atlantic City Expressway only LEFT LANE. Nothing about " Exit Only". Signage should be consistent for clarity. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:26:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:13:44 2016. Okay. What did he say? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:27:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 16 13:38:23 2016. And it was changed as it should have been. The same should happen along Woodhaven. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:29:16 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Thu Aug 11 21:31:52 2016. Totally untrue. They are advocating for improved bus service. Only they disagree with what is being proposed. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Aug 16 19:49:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:26:07 2016. Sorry, not going for this. Seen signs saying exit only with an arrow pointing at the lane it represents in several places. If this is really that confusing, think it might be time to see your doctor. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 16 20:36:40 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:26:07 2016. I passed by again today and that may have been the sign.As I suspected... At night it appeared to be closer to the entrance ramp.Uh huh... I will try to pass by again to make sure if I have the time.Don't strain yourself. Anyway, on Atlantic Avenue, the sign properly states Atlantic City Expressway only LEFT LANE. Nothing about " Exit Only".Wow. No. It says "left lane" because it is a left turn at a traffic light 1.5 blocks ahead!!!!!! There's no comparison to Baltic Ave! FURTHER, at Atlantic Ave, if you make the left turn you're talking about, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET ON THE EXPRESSWAY!!!!! It just leads you TOWARD the expressway! So it would make no sense to place an "EXIT ONLY" sign there!!!!! The "EXIT ONLY" sign situation on Baltic Ave is like I described it IN DETAIL IN MY PREVIOUS POST. Stop denying it. Signage should be consistent for clarity.Nope. Not necessarily. It should be consistent considering the context. And consistent with the MUTCD. The two situations you're describing are nothing alike. You're WAAAY off base. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 16 20:39:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:26:53 2016. You tell me! Quote him! You made the claim that he said something. So back it up. I know exactly what he said but it's pretty clear that you don't. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:05:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:00:45 2016. Except that isn't true- I DID read it right away. I just didn't have time to respond to it in detail right away. Otherwise I would not have been able to say with certainty that it was the same absurdities you usually peddle. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:08:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:22:47 2016. Existing plan: What exists today.Proposed plan: What will exist in the future after Woodhaven SBS is implemented. If they are the same, why would you complain about Woodhaven SBS so much? |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:14:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:22:47 2016. "My point was that bus stops at commercial intersections are first cleared by the commercial establishments near them before the city clears the bus stop whether it is on the sidewalk or the median. Therefore sidewalk bus stops are safer than median bus stops. And the community apparently agrees." Commercial intersections" are NOT reliably cleared by businesses. And much of this line involves areas which would not be classified as "commercial intersections" anyway. And again, the community DOES NOT agree. Stop making absurd statements like that- it just makes you look dishonest. "And I have no idea what you mean by the existing plan being preferable to the proposed plan. They are one in the same." (Addressed in prior post.) "Rather than showing how waiting in medians have proven to be safer, as usual you ask me to come up with statistics showing how they are less safe." Well yes, as YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE CLAIM THEY ARE LESS SAFE, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BACK THE CLAIM UP. "I would take the word of people who,lived their entire life in the community over the so-called DOT experts and outsiders such as yourself." No. Those are exactly the people who are the LEAST reliable here. They are people for whom there is no reason one would assume they have any understanding of statistics. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:16:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:31:00 2016. But it isn't irrelevant at all. There is no reason to believe that the rate at which snow is being cleared will change with SBS, so that rate is what is irrelevant.Since YOU made the claims which are clearly absurd, YOU are the one who needs to back that up. I DID NOT make such claims, so I have NO SUCH CLAIMS TO BACK UP. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:18:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:34:32 2016. But again, SINCE THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE SBS WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC, FREQUENT ACCESS TO SERVICE ROADS, NONE OF WHAT YOU SAY HAS ANY BASIS IN REALITY. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:19:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 18:29:16 2016. Gotham understands exactly what the elitist nimbys such as yourself are advocating, despite your claims to the contrary. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:21:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Aug 16 13:41:54 2016. You don't have to get off. You clearly do not know the MTA policy. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 12:58:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Tue Aug 16 19:49:31 2016. Have you ever seen "Exit Only" from a local street? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:07:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 16 20:39:32 2016. BROOKLYNBUS"There is no data on fare machine reliability. What are the median and maximum times machines have been out of service and how often have all the machines at any particular stop been inoperable? These data are important." R30A These don't matter whatsoever to riders of the line. The answer is VERY RARELY with regards to all machines at a particular stop being offline. http://www.subchat.com/thereef/read.asp?Id=58468 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:16:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 15 13:53:06 2016. Wrong!!!The section on the main page is clearly NOT FOR ALL SELECT BUS SERVICE. It is titled "SELECT BUS SERVICE IN BROOKLYN" Then under it says ""New B46" SO WHY WOULD ANYONE IN HIS RIGHT MIND CLICK ON A "Brooklyn" link if they looking for a " Queens SBS? They wouldn't. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 13:19:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:16:05 2016. Heading"+selectbusservice" Sub heading "Select Bus Service in Brooklyn" |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 13:20:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 12:58:41 2016. Depends on what you mean by local street. I have certainly seen such on roads of the size being discussed here. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:26:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 13:19:58 2016. Sorry. YOUR EXPLANATION IS INCORRECT BECAUSE NEITHER +selectbusservice or Select Bus Service in Brooklyn are clickable, so THEY ARE NOT LINKS.The only clickable link is B46. So again I ask WHY WOULD SOMEONE WHO WANTS INFORMATION ON ANY OTHER SBS ROUTE, click on a B46 link? THEY WOULD NOT!!!! |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 13:28:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 13:26:47 2016. My explanation is not incorrect. Where did I ever say they were links? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 17 13:54:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 16 20:36:40 2016. Bump |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 17 13:56:11 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:14:06 2016. Good post. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 17 13:58:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:21:00 2016. The way I read his post it seems he IS aware of the new policy. By "get off" he meant at your destination (as opposed to the first intermediate stop after boarding). |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Aug 17 16:59:32 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 12:58:41 2016. I know I have. If I am not mistaken, it was on Route 30 in Lancaster P.A. Your saying "local street" as if Baltic Ave. is tree lined with single family houses on it, and it is far from that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:51:33 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 13:28:53 2016. All you are saying is that the B46 link comes under the heading of +select bus service and the subheading of Brooklyn Select Bus Service.So what? Since the only link is to B46, my comment still stands that no one who is looking for information on other SBS routes would click on that link. The heading and subheading are not relevant since they are not links. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:55:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:18:22 2016. Access to service roads will be every quarter mile. Not frequent at all if stuck in traffic that is barely moving. The overwhelming majority of residents believe eliminating two lanes of general traffic without a massive shift to buses causing a reduction of cars on the road WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC. Not only that, but traffic will also spill over into parallel neighboring streets as was already shown in the B44 Progress Report. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:57:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Aug 16 14:14:38 2016. Who is telling me I am wrong? And what are they telling me? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 18:59:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:08:27 2016. Learn to write English Existing Conditions today IS NOT AN EXISTING PLAN. It is EXISTING CONDITIONS. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:07:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:14:06 2016. The community does agree. If you were at the protest, you would have had heard speaker after speaker ask how long will it take the City to clean the medians based on past experience which was three days after the last storm. They stated for example hat the bank cleared the sidewalk days before the city cleared the snow.So according to you we first have to wait for fatalities before the city realizes median bus stops are dangerous. One resident stated that the day before the protest a car hit another and one of them ended up the median. If people were waiting there for a bus, they would have been injured or killed. The residents who see the conditions every day ARE MORE RELIABLE THAN THE SO-CALLED DOT EXPERTS who are only in the neighborhood when they are collecting data. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:10:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:05:32 2016. Not true. You didn't read it for several weeks until there were at least 100 irrelevant posts. Then you made a post that you read it and will respond when to have the time. I responded that I would wait. Then you responded a week later. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:14:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:21:00 2016. The old policy was that you have to get off at the next stop. That was only recently changed. There even was once an incident where a passenger told the driver that both machines were not working and was told to board and get off at the next stop to pay. When she tried to get off to pay, inspectors boarded and prevented her from doing so and received a summons even after she explained the situation. It was well documented in news reports. I even referred to it in one of my Sheepsheadbites articles. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:15:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Aug 17 13:58:58 2016. Correct. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Aug 17 19:15:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 04:19:57 2016. And where is your proof that such is the case? |
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