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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 13:44:07 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 12:14:22 2016. Pwn3d |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 13:48:12 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 13:37:48 2016. PWN3D! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 13:48:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 10:32:15 2016. Exactly. But intelligent open minded people will be misled ONLY if they assume his facts are actually facts and his assumptions are actually valid/plausible. Which in both cases, they usually are not. Which is why we need to state in the strongest possible terms our objection to BrooklynBus's posts. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 13:50:15 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 09:59:22 2016. I didn't say he was in that post (though I may have said it previously in the last few years). Nor have I ever deliberately tried to confuse him IIRC. If and when he gets confused, it is his own doing, for the most part. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 13:57:08 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:34:18 2016. Wow, your post is like 125% wrong!! Congrats! |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:03:24 2016, in response to Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 12:09:30 2016. We're still waiting for the article.I stand corrected; it wasn't in the column itself but in his own comment on the column. "You cannot simply look at the advantages for bus passengers and ignore the impacts on everyone else or argue a bus passenger's time is worth more, because a better argument can be made that a driver's time is worth more since their incomes are higher." |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:03:28 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 13:05:39 2016. But it's worse than that. Instead of relying on the excerpts I posted, R30 could have read the articles on the web. I included the dates of publication to make it easy to find them.BUT he didn't want to find them because it would show he was wrong. In other news, I'm still waiting for RIP to find the article where you wrote that pedestrian lives don't matter. How long do you think we're going to have to wait. Will the SAS be completed first? LOL!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:08:58 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 11:24:37 2016. Yes you are! OMG you are.No, he and I don't. I didn't correct it. Damn autocorrect. I admit that autocorrect changed a word I misspelled into a word I didn't intend to write. So now what? |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:12:10 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 13:02:18 2016. Take your time. No rush. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:12:21 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 11:55:59 2016. Great post! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:12:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 1 13:32:42 2016. Hahahahaha!!! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:17:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 11:40:43 2016. Thank you for admitting your mistake. It's a good start to the long road to recovery that you have ahead of you.No, we don't speak for everyone, but we do speak for many people who have shared their views of you with us. Also, when has ANY generally respected, intelligent person on this forum EVER expressed the sentiment that they more or less agree with the majority of what you write, and that your facts are always factual and your assumptions are always sound? |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:17:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 11:41:14 2016. No it's not. You're wrong AGAIN!! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:18:16 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 11:41:38 2016. Wrong again! You're on a roll!! |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:18:25 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:03:28 2016. In other news, I'm still waiting for RIP to find the article where you wrote that pedestrian lives don't matter. How long do you think we're going to have to wait. Will the SAS be completed first? LOL!!I said "time," not "lives." Ignoring that detail, I believe the Second Avenue subway opened four minutes before you posted this... |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:18:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 11:43:30 2016. Nope. It's true. You're wrong again. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:21:33 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 12:01:48 2016. Excellent post. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:21:50 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 12:01:49 2016. Still an excellent post. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:24:13 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 13:37:48 2016. Owned so good!!! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:24:43 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:00:49 2016. LMAO |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:24:50 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:18:25 2016. My error. I confused you with others who wrote that Bus said pedestrian lives don't matter. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:26:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:01:48 2016. No it's not. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:27:48 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:03:24 2016. I read the article the quote refers and the comments. The article dealt with SBS and the percentage of traffic from buses, cars and trucks. Bus' point was the traffic is overwhelmingly cars and trucks and their journey is slowed by SBS. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:28:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 13:09:54 2016. Wait, so if that's what a responsible journalist does, then which of the following is true:1) JayZeeBMT isn't responsible, or 2) JayZeeBMT isn't a journalist? |
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Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:29:25 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:18:16 2016. Have you ever worked for a transit company? You write like you're a voice of authority. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:31:55 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:24:50 2016. Thank you for apologizing. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:33:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:08:30 2016. Yes, we know all about your intellectual laziness.No, R30A has tons of credibility. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:35:12 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:27:48 2016. You didn't address the issue. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:35:23 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:03:24 2016. OWNED!!!!! |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:35:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:11:19 2016. Wrong. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:36:24 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 1 13:31:37 2016. Nice! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:38:59 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:49:33 2016. Incorrect. They allowed you to write because you were writing opinion pieces. If you were writing real articles that require facts, you likely would not have been allowed to write, assuming the person making the decision was intelligent and open minded and committed to the truth. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:39:17 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 13:32:46 2016. Yep. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:41:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:38:59 2016. Name the newspaper(s) that publish your articles. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:42:23 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:35:12 2016. Yes I did. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:42:39 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:27:48 2016. The article dealt with SBS and the percentage of traffic from buses, cars and trucks. Bus' point was the traffic is overwhelmingly cars and trucks and their journey is slowed by SBS.Aside from the fact that that argument is wrong, it has nothing to do with "income," which is the exact word he used. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:43:51 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:31:55 2016. You should try it some time. You have a lot to apologize for. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:43:57 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 12:11:19 2016. I never stated that either. I stated everyone's time needs to be treated equally and that the needs of drivers should not be ignored with the belief that only a bus riders' time matters.You said "a driver's time is worth more since their incomes are higher." |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:44:23 2016, in response to Voice of Authority?, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:29:25 2016. The only credentials you need to know are based on the quality of my factual posts. No one can show a pattern of me being factually incorrect. Besides, say I have worked for a transit company. Would that simple fact change your entire opinion of me and my posts and all the people here I support??? And why only a "transit company?" How do you even define that? Why would that be the ONLY thing that matters? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:44:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:33:42 2016. A compliment coming from you is WORTHLESS! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:44:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:41:54 2016. Why? |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:46:38 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:42:23 2016. No you didn't, as RIPTA also just said. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:46:40 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:44:23 2016. Quality of your posts??? LOL!! You think everybody agrees with YOU???What are your professional qualifications? Bus has credentials. What are YOUR credentials? |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:47:57 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:43:51 2016. I do try it. Wherever I make a factual mistake. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:48:23 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:43:57 2016. Owned again. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:52:56 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:44:54 2016. It would be make you more credible if another media thought you were worth publishing. Another media would be unbiased in their evaluation of your arguments.RIP and R30 agreeing with you doesn't establish credentials. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:55:25 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:42:39 2016. He was trying to put a cost of traffic by adding up the incomes of everybody stuck in traffic. His point is that a car owner probably has a higher income.But then the total incomes of passengers on one bus exceeds the income of one person in a car. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:56:04 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:46:40 2016. You left out a word. FACTUAL.No, but I think no disagrees with my facts (enough) to even attempt to show how any of them are untrue. I already told you about my credentials. You didn't reply at all to that discussion. Read it again. |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 15:09:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:43:57 2016. He's just going to claim that he didn't make that argument, that he said that someone could have made that argument, or some kind of weaselly bullshit.This despite the fact that he clearly and explicitly called it a "better argument." |
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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 15:12:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:52:56 2016. Appeal to authority is a fallacy. |
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