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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016 Queens Chronicle |
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Posted by WillD on Mon Jun 20 00:23:57 2016, in response to MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016. So your solution to the MTA's problems with bus service is to improve that bus service, but only for those with cars and the ability to take advantage of the free parking? You make the claim that the route would be heavily utilized, but offer no evidence other than the usual qualitative, anecdotal claim of bus crowding.How does your autocentric proposal in any way reflect upon the MTA's priorities? If anything it only reflects upon your priorities, but then you've established yourself as an shill for automobile interests quite ably. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 20 00:37:05 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by WillD on Mon Jun 20 00:23:57 2016. NICE |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 20 13:20:25 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by WillD on Mon Jun 20 00:23:57 2016. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Apparently that is what all you anti-car advocates love doing.For you information, I developed dozens of bus route improvements back in 2006 and none of them involve automobiles. Here . Rockaway is very car centric and for good reason. A friend of mine waited for a Q53 on Sunday night from 10 PM to 11 PM and was late for work. He has a car and could have used it. It's crappy service like that why people choose to drive. I merely developed a single bus proposal that probably would get some out of their cars and into mass transit and would give them quicker mass transit trips, so you accuse me of ONLY caring about those with cars. The supposed advantage of buses over fixed rail ISTHAT YOU CAN TRY THINGS. The way to determine if there is demand is to give it a shot. Did you ask the MTA how they concluded the successful Q70 was worth a try? If it doesn't work, you didn't invest my much. The MTA has the resources to determine if there is a market. I DO NOT. Yet you are asking me for definitive proof this will work. My proposal reflects on the MTA's priorities (that title was the ecitor's not mine) because the MTA only considers additional operating costs, not added revenue, when determining new routes. That is why they usually operate them at 30 minute headways even during rush hours and terminate them short of making good bus connections in order to minimize operating costs which is their sole goal. I certainly am not a shill for automobile interests. I have devoted my adult life to improving mass transit for everyone, and drivers are part of "everyone". You on the other hand believe all drivers are evil, and have no reason to drive because everyone should either use mass transit, bike or walk and what the city needs to do is to discourage cars as much as possible while only promising mass transit improvements and only delivering them when real estate interests are met. |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:04:24 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jun 20 13:20:25 2016. Brooklyn Bus:"In the June 2 Letters, Larry Penner makes some sensible, low-cost recommendations the MTA could make to improve transit to and within the Rockaways today, not 10 years from now (“Rockaway transit options”). One of those recommendations I also made several months ago in a Rockaway newspaper, i.e., a direct bus route between the Sheepshead Bay Station and Riis Park for commuters as well as beachgoers. During non-summer months there could be free parking in the huge Riis Park lot, which currently goes unused. That would enable anyone in the Rockaways with a car to utilize that bus route for a quicker ride to Manhattan than they currently have. So the question is, why doesn’t the MTA make such sensible improvements? The answer is the agency is overly concerned with increased operating costs when considering new routes and does not consider how those costs would be offset by the revenue those routes would produce. The route I proposed would be heavily utilized, but the MTA’s goal is not to better serve the city’s residents but to keep operating costs to a minimum, hence the emphasis on longer buses and SBS routes with fewer stops, and little emphasis on new and extended bus routes. The MTA is finally increasing summer weekend service on the Q35 as Penner suggested, but much more needs to be done. Why is every Q53 bus overflowing as late as 8 p.m. on nice weekends even before the summer has started when the planning service guidelines call for seated loads on buses during the off-peak? Why do we need to wait for Select Bus Service for the Q52 to be extended? Why are no bus route changes being proposed to serve the new ferries? The MTA needs to answer these questions. So your solution to the MTA's problems with bus service is to improve that bus service, but only for those with cars and the ability to take advantage of the free parking? You make the claim that the route would be heavily utilized, but offer no evidence other than the usual qualitative, anecdotal claim of bus crowding." WillD: "How does your autocentric proposal in any way reflect upon the MTA's priorities? If anything it only reflects upon your priorities, but then you've established yourself as an shill for automobile interests quite ably." BB, some people just can't see the forest for the trees. WillD just assumed it was a car article. Of course he ignores the part about the Q53 being crowded into the night and there not being enough buses. It's convenient to continue a personal tirade than it is to delve into why the MTA is being so frugal and so uptight about making the little and big improvements. The M60-SBS on 125th Street, for example, is incredibly crowded in the rush hours and the buses bunch like crazy, so much so that there can be 5 buses in Manhattan heading to Queens but only one heading the opposite way in Manhattan. Then there are these huge gaps in service. Every time I have ridden it in the rush hour heading to Queens, there's always someone standing too close to the exits for the doors to close. It takes 5 or 6 minutes for the bus to leave a stop. Then people get desperate and start yelling at each other. It's why I stopped taking the bus as an alternative and opted to just take the (1). The bus can take 45 minutes to get from St. Nick to 31st & Hoyt because of that. Those PM rides are very uncomfortable and tense. But I'll bet you the MTA considers it a very efficient line. They would prefer to pack people like sardines and save money than providing a comfortable ride. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 15:21:08 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:04:24 2016. The solution to the problems of the Q53 is to fix the Q53!Running a shuttle from a park and ride lot to sheepshead bay would be incredibly wasteful, as you could be running the same buses on the Q53, where people would actually be riding them! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 15:30:11 2016, in response to MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016. I read the same article on NYCTF. However, the posters on NYCTF were more respectful even if they didn't agree. In fact, several posters agreed with Brooklyn Bus' points.On this list, it's a fight to the death between Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg and his associates VS Brooklyn Bus. If posters on NYCTF agreed with Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg and his associates, I would have to reconsider my opinion of Brooklyn Bus. But since they don't, it's difficult to support Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg and his associates. |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:35:39 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 15:21:08 2016. Why hasn't the MTA put more buses on the Q53? Why does the MTA have to wait years for the magical fix-it-all that is SBS when they could be just be adding more buses to the line? Yet again, you miss the forest for the trees. |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Jun 20 15:38:27 2016, in response to MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016. One flaw in that plan: the parking lot as Riis ISN'T free.Considering your plan now requires it to be staffed and maintained at basically all times, what makes you think it would ever be anything but paid for? And what happens to this service in the summer when beachgoers are crowding the spots? And have you actually bothered to sit and calculate how long this would take? or are we just listening to you rabble on about the old days, when you planned buses to go 12 miles in the snow, uphill both ways... |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:42:27 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 15:30:11 2016. Brian Weinberg doesn't have the balls to use a website that wouldn't tolerate his toxicity.On a side note, doesn't it seem a little strange that obregonmichael and that other annoying poster have been banned from SubChat but Brian hasn't? |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Jun 20 16:04:08 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 15:30:11 2016. Cause this place is a tad more cynical. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 16:16:56 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:35:39 2016. Who says they have not added buses to the Q53? They have! They have been constantly doing incremental improvements here! The Q53 has been getting better and better as time goes on, and I am happy that it will continue to do so! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:00:07 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by The Silence on Mon Jun 20 15:38:27 2016. When I was at Riis, the parking lot wasn't full and there was plenty of room.When were you there? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:11:16 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by The Silence on Mon Jun 20 16:04:08 2016. Cynicism is an understatement. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jun 20 23:32:15 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:00:07 2016. It's been about 5 years since I have been there in the summer, but that lot looked the way it did for the 10 years before, almost full. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jun 20 23:36:42 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by GojiMet86 on Mon Jun 20 15:42:27 2016. He will never be banned. Maybe disappear for a few weeks but always comes back.Like Ugly Naked Guy on Friends, he's not going away and the best option is to avert your eyes... |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:43:59 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jun 20 23:32:15 2016. 8/12/13 is the date of my photo of the parking lot and bridge. The lot of was empty. If I go out this year, I'll be sure to take a picture of the lot even though I don't know how to post photos to this list. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jun 20 23:59:58 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:43:59 2016. Alright, more recent then I was there. However let's say the lot starts getting used as a park and ride. Taking into account that street parking is restricted between middle of May to end of September, there runs the potential for a problem.What happens when there isn't enough parking? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 21 00:31:50 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:43:59 2016. even though I don't know how to post photos to this list.Why not learn? LOL! |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 21 05:27:57 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Mon Jun 20 23:43:59 2016. I'm sure there are better ways to post photos, I use Image Shack, then I hyper-link them.Hyperlinking by Amanda New Flyer Septa Midi-bus |
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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 05:34:59 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 21 00:31:50 2016. A poster described it to me and it was convoluted.Every body on this list doesn't crave attention like you Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinnin' Brian Weinberg. I don't suffer from attention deficit disorder like you do. SMH! |
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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 05:36:44 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 21 05:27:57 2016. Thank you for the information. I never heard of image shack. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 21 05:47:07 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jun 21 05:27:57 2016. Midi Specs |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jun 21 07:58:17 2016, in response to MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016. I never ever heard of a parking lot which is best used during the non-summer months. That's like commuters living in Westchester to drive to the Playland parking lots during the off season, it doesn't make sense.And this bus going to Sheepshead Bay - - why? The Q35 goes to Flatbush/Nostrand junction - - how would the travel path of the Sheepshead Bay route go? Through the Belt Parking Lot You propose a ridiculous idea which you don't justify the route's travel path of the proposed travel time. Customer perceptions are realistic, they want a bus that goes to a subway station near the center of Brooklyn, not far away near the Atlantic Ocean. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Jun 21 08:08:31 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jun 21 07:58:17 2016. Riis Park is not NYC or NY State controlled. It is managed by the National Park Service as part of Gateway. Not sure what their take on repurposing the parking lot would be, but the city and the MTA can't just do it on their own. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Jun 21 08:33:09 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jun 21 08:08:31 2016. Yep. It's right there with set up the park and ride in Floyd Bennett Field, very easy. In reality, it's not that easy. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jun 21 09:40:13 2016, in response to MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jun 17 13:00:40 2016. Option 1 - a morning commuter uses the new bus service from Riis park connecting to Sheepshead Bay B/Q station to eventually reach Wall Street:Bus trip time - 27 minutes estimated (assume 7 minutes average wait at a 15-minute headway, 20 minutes travel time) Subway trip time - 39 minutes estimated via (Q) to DeKalb Ave, (R) to Rector St. Total trip time = 1 hour 6 minutes Option 2 - the commuter uses the existing Q35 bus service from the Riis Park stop to connect to the Flatbush Avenue 2/5 station: Bus trip time - 25 minutes estimated (5 minute average wait at a 10-minute a.m. headway, 20 minutes scheduled travel time) Subway trip time - 34 minutes (4 minutes average wait time, 30 minutes via the (5) train to Bowling Green) Total trip time = 59 minutes Sorry, but your proposal appears to be a solution in search of a problem. |
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Posted by JerBear on Tue Jun 21 10:56:40 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jun 21 09:40:13 2016. I met a guy like 5 years ago or something who told me that he did this Option 2 or something similar, but definitely parking at the empty lot. But I thought he said that they took the bus stop away or something. Actually, now that I think about it, it may have been the express bus that he would park there in order to ride. But anyway Transit said there wasn't enough demand and got rid of the stop. Or maybe just proposed the removal. It's been awhile since I had this conversation. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 21 16:03:35 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 05:34:59 2016. There's nothing convoluted about it. You are just too lazy and/or stupid to do it. Of course, you respond with a non-sequitur about your favorite target. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 20:06:34 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 21 16:03:35 2016. There's no reason I want to share my photos with scum like you. You're one of Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg's associates and I choose to have as little contact as possible.Now, why don't you get off your fat ass and go out to Riis Park yourself? And don't come back! LOL!! |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jun 21 21:10:03 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 20:06:34 2016. Why don't you not post when you have no content to contribute? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Jun 21 21:40:53 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 21 21:10:03 2016. He could also answer questions he was asked. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 22:10:04 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 21 21:10:03 2016. Why don't you ask Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg the SAME question? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Jun 21 22:29:42 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 22:10:04 2016. Brian didn't say Riis' parking lot was empty. You want to stand with Brooklyn Bus on this, which is fine, no problem there. I would like though, what do you do when the lot is full, no parking is in effect on the street and the beach crowds are still coming?I worked near Riis Park for over 10 years. I know about the parking regulations during the summer. I understand how poor the situation can get over there. Maybe I am missing something, maybe I nailed it, maybe you missed something. Saying nothing don't help unless you have something to hide. I can respect you, right, wrong or indifferent, if you treat me like a human. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 22 13:57:22 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Tue Jun 21 22:29:42 2016. I love how you phased that.Thats EXACTLY what we see missing HERE in many cases. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 22 14:04:36 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jun 20 23:59:58 2016. Hmm.Nobody ever offers the logistics about THE HOW,yet forever can state with AUTHORITY what can be done. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 22 14:22:24 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 22 14:04:36 2016. Wrong. SOME people offer the logistics about THE HOW, and they state with SOME authority whether it LIKELY can or cannot be done. The other people - they can be ignored. But the ones I just described, they have something to offer and should be respected. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Wed Jun 22 14:51:04 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Jun 22 14:22:24 2016. Cryin' Lyin' Brian Whinin' Weinberg. What do you know about respect?NOTHING. You're a great role model in showing respect to posters you don't agree. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 14:56:43 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 16:16:56 2016. You obviously don't ride it on summer weekends like I do regularly to see it is packed to the gills until 9 PM with buses regularly skipping B96 and B98 St. The line at 116 St is a half block long and after stops are eliminated with SBS, it will stretch around the block and consist of several hundred people waiting for a bus. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 14:59:44 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 20 15:21:08 2016. The proposed bus route would serve a clientele in addition to the Q53 and would be at least 15 minutes faster to midtown. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:04:06 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Mon Jun 20 23:59:58 2016. Street parking is only restricted on summer weekends. I was talking about weekday commuters when the lot is never full and on street parking is irrelevant to this discussion. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Jun 22 15:04:26 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 22 13:57:22 2016. Edwards!,I will treat you like a human as long you return the same. If you want to tell me how it is, you better be correct or I will call it. If I am wrong, I can take it, but twisting things to save face I can't stand. There's my position. With that said, I still can't get an answer on what to do when there is no parking. Somehow I don't deserve an answer because somebody came up with a half-baked plan using poor information. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:06:19 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by nostalgia on Tue Jun 21 20:06:34 2016. Notice how he and Brian only know how to respond with an insult. PM me on NYTF and I will explain the process. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:08:23 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Wed Jun 22 15:04:26 2016. The only time the lot may get full is on a few hot summer weekends. It is n ever full during the week when commuters need it. Quit throwing in red herrings. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:12:12 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by pragmatist on Tue Jun 21 08:08:31 2016. You have ever heard of cooperation between different levels of government? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Jun 22 15:15:00 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:04:06 2016. Umm, I was at it with your mouth piece. He says this is great and can't answer why.Is this incorrect information I have- Jacob Riis Park in the New York City borough of Queens, is part of the Jamaica Bay Unit of the Gateway National Recreation Area, and is managed by the National Park Service. That is compliments of Google. When has the NPS ever catered to anybody? How does somebody just set up a park and ride at Riis Park on FEDERAL PROPERTY? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Wed Jun 22 15:18:32 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:08:23 2016. Quit throwing in nonsense. Your the only one screaming Riis Park should be a park and ride. The second you said the lot may get full on a few summer weekends, you show why it is not a great idea. Where do you put the overflow of cars? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:20:11 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jun 21 07:58:17 2016. The route would use the Belt Parkway for one short exit which would take between three and 15 minutes depending on traffic. If it is really bad, it could use an alternate route like the B110 does when the BQE is congested (Avenue U to Knapp to Emmons). I suppose no other routes are delayed by 12 minutes. Maybe we should discontinue the M60 because of traffic on the 59 St.bridge which is much more severe.Why do you feel the need to criticize many things I write just because you disagree with my views on autos and pedestrians? I have complimented your attention to detail regarding the MTA's poor signage. Yet you can never find anything to compliment me on even when I am much more familiar with the area and situation than you are. As for riders wanting the center of Brooklyn, the Brighton line has advantages for midtown destinations over the IRT. Express all the way and no stops in downtown Manhatfan. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:24:14 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jun 21 09:40:13 2016. How about posting the comparative travel times for the clientele I was gearing this proposal to, Midtown commuters and using the B express instead of the Q local. Did your IRT times also include bus and subway wait times? I don't remember right now. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jun 22 15:26:37 2016, in response to Re: MTA's Poor Priorities, posted by Cornell Park on Wed Jun 22 15:18:32 2016. Most commuters commute weekdays, not on two or three hot summer weekends you keep harping about. There is no overflow 98 percent of the time. |
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