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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 13:02:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Thu May 26 02:18:41 2016.

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He understands as much as you do which is nothing. Both of you have been brainwashed by Vision Zero to hate anyone who dares to drive instead of using mass transit even when it is a poor alternative.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Thu May 26 13:03:05 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:54:06 2016.

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No. That is clearly what you are saying, as has been made clear by your continued posting demonstrating the contempt you have for the pedestrians of this good city.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:06:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:54:06 2016.

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It's NOT a comprehension problem. He understood what you wrote AND CHANGED IT to something else he could attack.

This reminds me of the military. When planning a battle, they know there will be casualties.

In R30's case, the casualties are TRUTH and YOU. He's willing to accept those casualties.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:09:28 2016, in response to Thanks!, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:56:41 2016.

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Lack of postings doesn't mean lack of support. Posters don't want to become the object of attack.

Goji wrote reasonable and measured responses and they have been twisted.

The truth is people are judged more by their actions than their words.
Terrapin and R30 don't START posts. They AMBUSH posts.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 26 13:10:19 2016, in response to Thanks!, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:56:41 2016.

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I was starting to have my doubts
LOL! You were just starting now!?!? We've been telling you for years that most people here disagree with you, and practically all the respected knowledgeable trustworthy-proven members who participate in threads with you also disagree with you. Why did it take you so long to realize that we are right?

Thanks to you and Nostalgia for supporting me. It's good to know that there are at least two sane people on this board.
They my be sane but they're not correct. With support form people like that, who needs enemies? LOL! The fact that you *appreciate* support from people like them just further cements your status as a clueless person.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 26 13:12:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:59:27 2016.

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That's wrong.

For those who don't agree with you, it's more of an issue of YOU being flat-out wrong rather than Vision Zero/NYC being flat-out correct.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by Cornell Park on Thu May 26 13:16:47 2016, in response to Thanks!, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 12:56:41 2016.

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And when you say "It's good to know that there are at least two sane people on this board.", it tells me if I don't agree with you, it is then you determination I am insane. No sure where you are qualified to make that decision. Good to know nonetheless.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:19:50 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 26 13:10:19 2016.

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You have no statistical evidence that most people disagree with him. With your reputation, I would never trust anybody you deem "respected knowledgeable trustworthy-proven.."

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:44:54 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by Cornell Park on Thu May 26 13:16:47 2016.

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I don't think that is what he meant. He's been under relentless attack by the same people. His comment about insanity referred to his constant attackers.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by R30A on Thu May 26 13:45:32 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:44:54 2016.

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He gets attacked by many because he CONSTANTLY lies.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:55:51 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by R30A on Thu May 26 13:45:32 2016.

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But the usual suspects account for most of the attacks.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 15:11:22 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:19:50 2016.

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Not ready to share, no, but it could be researched, summarized, and presented. All the data is available. You're saying that it's your impression that most people who respond here agree with him? LOL!

As for your second sentence, want to bet?



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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 15:15:13 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 15:11:22 2016.

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I would never bet with somebody I don't trust.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:10:01 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:19:50 2016.

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+1000

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:10:30 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 15:15:13 2016.

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IAWTP.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:18:10 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 26 13:10:19 2016.

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Most people are saying BrooklynBus is correct but I'm staying out of this because I don't want to get into a conversation with TS and also get on his enemies list.

And here you go again with your nob-stop insults that you deny making by insisting all your accusations are correct while offering not the slightest bit of evidence.

And you still never admitted you were wrong about stating capacity is a function of service saying you can't increase capacity without increasing service. JayZee and I both showed you that if you increase the size of the bus, you can increase capacity without increasing service.

Now let's see how you will reword what you stated so as to deny you were wrong.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:19:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 26 13:12:32 2016.

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I'm flat out wrong by stating the 25 mph is more of a money grab than it is a way to increase safety, especially when most drivers ignore it?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:20:47 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:06:36 2016.

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Okay.

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Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:25:47 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:18:10 2016.

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Brooklyn Bus:
Haven't you figured it out. TS lives in Wonderland, with Alice. The Queen of Hearts says "Sentence first-- verdict afterwards."

NUMBER: 2019
AUTHOR: Lewis Carroll (1832–98)
QUOTATION: “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

TS is like Humpty Dumpty, changing word definitions to suit himself so he is always right.

I don't remember the MTA routing a bus to Wonderland.


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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:27:39 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Thu May 26 13:03:05 2016.

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Make up all the lies you want to say about me. Only about three people here agree with you anyway.

I have no contempt for pedestrians. I am one also. BUT YOU HAVE CLEARLY DISPLAYED YOUR CONTEMPT FOR ANYONE WHO DRIVES A CAR. You have clearly stated the MAJORITY of drivers are bad, when that number is closer to 10 percent.

If the majority of drivers were as bad as you say they are, there would be hundreds of pedestrians killed every single day, not mention the hundreds every day that would be killed in their cars.

The fact is your chances are greater of being struck by lightning than being killed crossing the street which we discussed before by examining the numbers. Over 99 percent of the street crossings made every day by pedestrians are done without incident. That's millions of safe street crossings every day.

That would never be the case if the streets were as dangerous as Vision Zero claim they are.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:30:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:27:39 2016.

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You're getting upset, which is what TS and R30 want. I wrote they reveal more about themselves than about you.

You can't stop their posting. You have stop thinking they have convinced the entire board you're wrong. Stop wiggling in the quicksand.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:31:36 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by Cornell Park on Thu May 26 13:16:47 2016.

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Your inference is totally erroneous.

I said nothing about people disagreeing with me not being sane. I was referring to the same two or three who constantly attack everything I post by changing what I say and accusing me of stating things I never stated.

If you disagree with sonething I posted, I would be glad to have a rational discussion with you unless you prove to me you are not able to do that. Two sane people can surely agree to disagree.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:34:15 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:09:28 2016.

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You are correct once again. THANK YOU AGAIN.

At least they don't post on NY Transit Forums. That group is moderated and their behavior would get them banned there.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:37:31 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Wed May 25 23:50:05 2016.

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I am not looking for 100% agreement. I am looking to have rationale discussions about facts which those two are incapable of and that's by their choice because they can't admit they are wrong when you get them boxed into a corner. They have to always prove they are correct, hence the tactics they use.

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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:42:53 2016, in response to Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:25:47 2016.

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Wasn't Humpty Dumpty the one who had a big fall?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:43:38 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:30:20 2016.

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Thanks again.

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Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 18:02:49 2016, in response to Re: Terrapin Station is Humpty Dumpty, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:42:53 2016.

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Yes. He was hit by a car in a pedestrian zone. LOL

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by Cornell Park on Thu May 26 18:36:50 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:31:36 2016.

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Alright, deal. It is a misunderstanding.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by Terrapin station on Thu May 26 19:32:00 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:19:53 2016.

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Did I say that?

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:36:13 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:10:30 2016.

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That's because you know you're wrong.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:36:52 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 15:15:13 2016.

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You mean with someone who doesn't have a history of being wrong like you do. Thanks.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:37:33 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:10:01 2016.

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You're wrong, as usual.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:39:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 13:06:36 2016.

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Wrong.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:40:19 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:20:47 2016.

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It's not ok. LOL. You just can't win, can you?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:42:01 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:43:38 2016.

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You won't listen to him. You have to respond to show people just how wrong you can be.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:44:06 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 17:30:20 2016.

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Sort of wrong. Yes we want him to respond, but we don't want him to get upset. We want him to finally see the error of his ways so he can use his desire to do good to actually do good instead of doing bad. But you won't understand that since it doesn't fit your limited worldview.

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:44:49 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:27:39 2016.

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Wow. So much wrong in your post.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:48:25 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by Cornell Park on Thu May 26 18:36:50 2016.

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No, you understood him correctly the first time. He's backpedaling now that you showed him how he was wrong as usual. Don't take this crap from him. He has no desire to have rational conversations. And he thinks everyone except his two buddies are insane.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:50:26 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:34:15 2016.

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You're so clueless. If only you had the intelligence so fully understand the situation. LOL!

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:51:32 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:37:31 2016.

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100% wrong and I'll bet you on it. LOL! But you know you're wrong and chicken so you won't.

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Re: Thanks!

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:05:41 2016, in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:48:25 2016.

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Brooklyn Bridge isn't giving any crap. You're just upset that your spell didn't work over Cornell Park.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:06:57 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:36:52 2016.

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Your history of being wrong is LONGER than mine. GOTCHA. You lose again. Want to go double or nothing?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:07:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:39:49 2016.

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Right. You're wrong. LOL

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by R30A on Thu May 26 21:16:51 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 26 17:27:39 2016.

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"Make up all the lies you want to say about me. Only about three people here agree with you anyway."
Nice self projection there...

"I have no contempt for pedestrians."
You clearly do.

"I am one also."
Yes, which is why such is puzzling.

"BUT YOU HAVE CLEARLY DISPLAYED YOUR CONTEMPT FOR ANYONE WHO DRIVES A CAR."
No. Only unsafe nutjobs such as yourself.
"You have clearly stated the MAJORITY of drivers are bad, when that number is closer to 10 percent."
I have never stated such. However I will state that you clearly are a terrible driver.

"If the majority of drivers were as bad as you say they are, there would be hundreds of pedestrians killed every single day, not mention the hundreds every day that would be killed in their cars."
About 100 are killed in car crashes every day. But I never said most drivers are bad...


"The fact is your chances are greater of being struck by lightning than being killed crossing the street which we discussed before by examining the numbers."
No.
Risk of dying by being hit by a car in a given year. 1 in 47K.
Risk of dying by being hit by lightning in a given year. 1 in 4370K. Lightning is roughly 100 times less likely.

"Over 99 percent of the street crossings made every day by pedestrians are done without incident."
That isn't very good. Luckily it is much higher.

"That's millions of safe street crossings every day."
And tens of thousands of unsafe street crossings too, assuming your numbers. Simply unacceptable.

"That would never be the case if the streets were as dangerous as Vision Zero claim they are."
Deaths due to unsafe drivers IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. PERIOD. Why are you incapable of understanding that?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy

Posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 23:10:34 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 26 19:51:32 2016.

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He doesn't trust you so why would he bet? You don't know the meaning of the word "honest."

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 02:02:38 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Thu May 26 20:06:57 2016.

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Proff?

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Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 02:05:54 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracyn, posted by R30A on Thu May 26 21:16:51 2016.

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Great post. Exactly what I wanted to say (i.e. the truth). Thanks for taking care of it for me. You owned BrooklynBus so good.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 05:37:54 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 02:02:38 2016.

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Self-evident truths don't have to be proven.

I don't have to convince you, just the list.

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Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 27 06:59:04 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 05:37:54 2016.

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It's not self evident. And you haven't convinced the board of anything except that you're an ass.

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The Real Terrapin Station

Posted by nostalgia on Fri May 27 08:19:07 2016, in response to Re: Thanks! (But no thanks!), posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 27 06:59:04 2016.

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It's self evident to everybody but you and R30.

You're just a little boy who grew up into a little man with attention deficit order and low self esteem. You don't start threads just attack others who do to make yourself feel important. You're jealous of posters who have transit jobs because you'll never have a transit job. Your jealousy makes you think that you know more than transit employees on EVERYTHING.

The list just doesn't want to deal with you. You are a cancer that drives people off this board because you want to be supreme.

The more you write, the more you reveal yourself so everybody can see your true motivations aren't benevolent.



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