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RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Mar 10 18:47:10 2015

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SOLICITATION TITLE: B40660 Furnish and Deliver 231 Low Floor 60-ft Articulated Diesel Buses with an Option of up to an Additional 300 Buses

MTA New York City Transit

NOTICE

RFQ# 0000101749

Contract No. B40660

Furnish and Deliver 231 Low Floor 60-Foot Articulated Diesel Buses

The New York City Transit Authority (the "Authority" or “NYCTA”), a public benefit corporation organized under the Public Authorities Law of the State of New York, which for purposes hereof shall be deemed to include the Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority and the Staten Island Rapid Transit Operating is requesting proposals from bus manufacturers to furnish and deliver two hundred thirty-one (231} low floor 60-foot articulated diesel buses ("the Base Contract") and up to three hundred (300) additional buses (“the Option”) in accordance with the Contract Documents including the Technical Specifications.

The Authority seeks proposals based upon the work, the Terms and Conditions and the Technical Specifications set forth in the RFP. The Authority also encourages alternative proposals which address its requirements with respect to the work and which offer proposed benefits and advantages to NYCTA through enhancements, reductions and/or changes to the Terms and Conditions and the Technical Specifications.

The Authority requires the Proposers to successfully complete the required structural qualification and all other qualification activities in accordance with the New Bus Testing Program. Proposals will only be considered from those manufacturers offering a bus already tested and approved by NYCTA or from manufacturers who can demonstrate that they have the ability to qualify their proposed bus in time to support the delivery schedule outlined in the Terms and Conditions.

NYCTA will consider the following factors, which are listed in descending order of importance, in
evaluating proposals:

1). Overall Project Cost- including, in addition to pricing, such matters as payment terms, net cost savings and or additions regarding proposed changes to the Contract Terms and Conditions and the Technical Specifications

2). New York State Content

3). Overall Quality of Proposer and Product

4). Other Relevant Matters. These Selection Criteria are further described in the solicitation documents.

Notwithstanding its relative ranking based on the Evaluation Criteria, the Proposer must demonstrate to the satisfaction of NYCT that it is in all respects a responsible party, i.e., that it has the integrity, skill and experience to faithfully perform the Contract, and the necessary facilities and financial resources to do the Work in accordance with the Contract Documents.



All inquiries should be addressed as follows:
Geoffrey Ray, Senior Director
MTA New York City Transit
2 Broadway, Room 5191133
New York, New York 10004
Phone: (646) 252-6035
E-mail: Geoffrey.ray@nyct.com


Goals: 14% WBE; 1% MBE

BIDS DUE BY: 5/1/2015.


Note: 231 artic bus base order is already funded in 2010-2014 MTA Capital Program. The option order has not yet funded, pending approval for 2015-2019 MTA Capital Program

Likely a split order again due to the accelerating Orion V bus retirement and New Flyer D60HF issues.

The award for the base order is expected around December 2015.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 10 19:18:51 2015, in response to RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Mar 10 18:47:10 2015.

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The experiment with hybrids, I guess was a failure in NYC.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 10 22:16:23 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 10 19:18:51 2015.

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This order wouldn't necessarily replace the hybrids, but they could knock out the first batch of O7 hybrids.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Mar 10 23:17:39 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Mar 10 22:16:23 2015.

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The option order on 40 ft will replace parts of the first gen hybrids.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Mar 11 12:26:04 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 10 19:18:51 2015.

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The experiment with hybrids, I guess was a failure in NYC.

Not necessarily - the true test will be when the MTA has to replace the hybrids at the Manhattan depots where local residents have complained about high asthma rates.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by pragmatist on Wed Mar 11 12:43:33 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Mar 11 12:26:04 2015.

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MDBF has not been great for the Orions with the BAE (series)hybrid drive. Does anybody have any data from TAs operating buses with the Allison (parallel)hybrid drive. Conceptually, they would be better for the outer boros with less traffic density where the series hybrids don't really bring any fuel savings, but if they were also more reliable, it would make a big difference. BAE being a NY product was going to be tough to beat on paper, but we have years of real operational data now.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by JAzumah on Wed Mar 11 17:03:25 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Mar 11 12:26:04 2015.

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The Xcelsior also comes in all electric mode. That would be fun to see an all electric garage. I would assume the XDE60 would be available for the right price.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 01:32:41 2015, in response to RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Mar 10 18:47:10 2015.

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New Flyer and Nova Bus are interesting to bid.... for now.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 23 07:40:18 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 01:32:41 2015.

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A lot of things are interesting. What's your point? LOL.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:57:16 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 23 07:40:18 2015.

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my point is.... fuck you bastard. lol

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Mon Mar 23 12:05:09 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:57:16 2015.

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IAWTP!

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by caine515 on Mon Mar 23 12:26:49 2015, in response to RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Mar 10 18:47:10 2015.

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Ny could have went for el Dorado like Chicago PACE did or Gillig BRT or Van Hool.Were new flyer and NOVSBUS the only ones willing to send demos?

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by pragmatist on Mon Mar 23 12:37:28 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by caine515 on Mon Mar 23 12:26:49 2015.

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They won't buy anything that has not gone through BTE and has passed or will pass Altoona before award.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 23 13:02:24 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:57:16 2015.

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haha

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 13:53:54 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 23 13:02:24 2015.

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fuck you unibrow Brian.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 23 18:28:43 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 13:53:54 2015.

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I know you want to, LOL!

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 19:44:53 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 23 18:28:43 2015.

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turtle soup.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 23 21:36:37 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 19:44:53 2015.

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best thing bmtlines ever posted.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 23 22:57:29 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 09:57:16 2015.

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Priceless!

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 23 23:26:12 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by gold_12th on Mon Mar 23 13:53:54 2015.

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Save your energy. He thrives on negative attention. You can't have an intelligent conversation with him because he has NO INTELLIGENCE.

He used to anger me. Now, I just sigh with lots of pity for his immaturity and mental illness. I hoped he would qualify for health insurance under Obamacare.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Mar 24 07:34:42 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 23 21:36:37 2015.

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Are you saying his photo sucked???

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Mar 24 07:42:19 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 23 22:57:29 2015.

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Why?

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Mar 24 07:44:14 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 23 23:26:12 2015.

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LOL. YOU MAD.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TheHat on Tue Mar 24 20:05:54 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Mar 24 07:42:19 2015.

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Clueless?

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by bx36ltd on Wed Mar 25 03:44:30 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TheHat on Mon Mar 23 22:57:29 2015.

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I hope new flyer wins this bid

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Mar 25 08:56:02 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TheHat on Tue Mar 24 20:05:54 2015.

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Huh? So you have no idea. Thanks.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TheHat on Wed Mar 25 20:00:53 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Mar 25 08:56:02 2015.

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I only asked if you were clueless. You're welcome.

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Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu Mar 26 00:41:41 2015, in response to Re: RFP on MTA's 231 (60') articulated low-floor bus base order w/ up to 300 on option order, posted by TheHat on Wed Mar 25 20:00:53 2015.

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No, I asked the first question. You have yet to answer that. Try to show some respect.

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