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Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 08:37:09 2015 Yesterday, early.On the Septa Trackless Route 59, they cancelled the EPU temporarily as they have engineers riding around in the coaches trying to figure out the line voltage spikes problem. At noon time. yesterday Three engineers /mechanics are riding Coach #825 (1) Electrical Engineer (1) Chief TT mechanic (1) Head of Frankford shop. They have a laptop hooked up to the inside of the compartment that is behind the driver and they are getting readings and hopefully they can see where the spikes are coming from. Today, More troubles Posted detour - Route 59 Route 59 Start Location: Castor & Vista Start Date: 2/10/2015 7:38 AM End Date: 2/11/2015 4:30 AM Reason for Detour: Defective signal activation hot coach Details: NB Via Castor Vista EPU TO Bells corner Start Location: Bells Corner & Castor Vista Start Date: 2/10/2015 7:40 AM End Date: 2/11/2015 4:30 AM Reason for Detour: Defective signal activation hot coach Details: SB Via Bells Corner EPU TO Castor Vista |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by The silence on Tue Feb 10 10:20:57 2015, in response to Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 08:37:09 2015. So, Mr. Chuck, would you say, given the evidence, that this is an example of a situation where an electric bus is not superior to a diesel bus "every day"? |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Feb 10 18:57:14 2015, in response to Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 08:37:09 2015. Maybe its time to say UNCLE and go with regular buses. This seems like such a waste of time and money. And get rid of those ugly wires. Just my 2 cents. |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 10 19:04:03 2015, in response to Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by busdude2 on Tue Feb 10 18:57:14 2015. No. |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 20:10:31 2015, in response to Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by The silence on Tue Feb 10 10:20:57 2015. I really can't answer that question. Vancouver BC, has a similar trackless model and I don't think they have voltage spike problem. This issue seems to be only in Philadelphia and only on Route 59. The 66 & 75 don't have this issue and those lines run well.I hear some griping about that SEPTA should have never purchased new TT's and just used buses, preferably hybrids on the 3 TT lines. The story was it was all tied in with the Frankford Transportation Center rebuild. The feds gave them the money only if they restored the TT lines. (We still had the wires and substations). I ride the Trackless about once a week and when they are running well, they are fine. They are quiet, and have good acceleration. I also enjoy riding hybrid buses, they are much quieter than straight diesel bus. So, i can't answer your question, I don't really have a favorite or enough facts to rate one mode over another. |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Feb 10 20:31:36 2015, in response to Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 20:10:31 2015. I was trying to mock Dan Lawrence, who's been on an "electric beats diesel every day" kick. this failure is case in point they are by no means perfect.Montreal and LAMTA |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 23 06:58:21 2015, in response to Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by busdude2 on Tue Feb 10 18:57:14 2015. I heard there were 6 Hot coaches on the Route 66 around Comly St. Now the 66 is in partial EPU mode.That means the problem is on all three lines, and Septa is actually operating an unsafe vehicle for the public. The EPU motors are being over-used and are headed for possible failure Why can't we just run buses on the lines until the voltage issue is resolved? |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 23 15:07:49 2015, in response to Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 23 06:58:21 2015. Update:Water is pouring down the cable manholes on the trackless lines, and shorting out the negative cables , so they have to go up and down the line , pumping the water out. They are doing the 59 and will do the 66 next. This may be the crux of the Voltage Spike problem?? |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Feb 23 17:00:29 2015, in response to Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 08:37:09 2015. Septa invested a lot of $$$ in these Trackless Coaches.I also heard the story that it was tied in with The Frankford Swing project, like we'll help you but because you have all the infrastructure still there for the the trackless lines, you must buy new vehicles and run them.I personally like the trackless trolleys , they are clean and green like they say today. It's disheartening to follow all these latest problems. |
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Re: Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Feb 25 16:48:47 2015, in response to Voltage Spikes on Septa's Route 59, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Feb 10 08:37:09 2015. The 59 has been running for 3 days without HOT COACH indications.They replaced several lengths of negative cable that was worn and frayed. They still have to pump water out of the manholes up and down the line, my best guess is that will happen in the spring.I am crossing all my fingers and toes that this will solve the problem. |
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