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NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by GOlD_12tH on Fri Jan 30 13:41:53 2015

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NICE Bus is proposing raising fares from $2.50 to $2.75 in an effort to plug a $6 million budget gap.

The increase was the focus of a public hearing at NICE Bus headquarters in Garden City Thursday.

For everyday riders like Aaron Watkins-Lopez, the budget increase means an extra $130 each year.

“I'm not a piggy bank…You don't just dip in whenever you feel like it,” said Watkins-Lopez.

NICE Bus CEO Mike Setzer says higher fares are needed to cover an employee pay increase and higher benefits that go into effect in April, along with having to pay more for maintenance and the compressed gas that runs the buses.

Victoria Daza, of Freeport, says the money to fill the budget hole shouldn't come from bus riders.

http://longisland.news12.com/news/nice-bus-proposes-fare-increases-to-plug-6-million-budget-gap-1.9881321

Most Nassau County bus customers will pay 25 cents more for their ride beginning in March after NICE approved its second fare hike in less than a year last night.

After a pair of public hearings at Nassau Inter-County Express' Garden City headquarters Thursday, the seven-member Nassau Bus Transit Committee -- NICE's governing body -- greenlit a plan to raise the cost of a MetroCard fare to $2.75 from $2.50, just as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority did last week.

Despite NICE chief executive Michael Setzer recommending a 25 cent increase for all riders, including those paying in cash or with NICE's mobile app, the panel chose to limit the hike to MetroCard users, who make up about two-thirds of NICE riders.

In a bipartisan agreement last year, the Nassau County Legislature vowed not to raise fares in 2015 for cash customers.

But the NICE transit committee said it would revisit a broader fare increase if NICE cannot find a way to close a $5.5 million budget gap.

The MetroCard hike would bring in only $600,000 a year, according to NICE.

"It would take quite the leap of faith to assume that somebody else . . . would completely close that gap," said Setzer, adding that even with a fare hike for all riders, "drastic" service cuts will be necessary without more government aid. "I think we've agreed in the past that's the worst possible way to balance a budget."

But NICE's latest budget woes -- coming after a 25 cent fare hike in September for cash customers -- earned the agency little sympathy from several speakers at the public hearings.

"When businesses want more income, they try to sell more of their product," Valley Stream resident Nancy Dwyer, 80, told the committee. "Your product is bus seats. So why would you ever make it harder to afford a seat on your bus?"

Aaron Watkins-Lopez, organizer for the Long Island Bus Riders Union, a nonprofit advocacy group, said the hike will force many low-income riders to have to choose between spending an extra $130 on getting to work, or on heating their homes.

"I'm urging you not to make the decision to dip into the pockets of the people who can't afford to have you in there," said Watkins-Lopez, who called the hike a "Band-Aid" on a bigger problem of Nassau not adequately funding its own bus system. "You have a deficit, you raise the fare, and six months later you have a deficit again. So you raise the fare again . . . We're basically going nowhere."

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nice-bus-oks-25-fare-hike-for-metrocard-users-to-close-budget-gap-1.9882076

From News 12 video... the $2.75 fare hike will bring only bring $2 million new revenue but still short of plugging the $6 million budget hole. Fare hike goes into effect 3/22/2015. Looks like cutting bus service in the future. NICE, lol.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jan 30 14:52:28 2015, in response to NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by GOlD_12tH on Fri Jan 30 13:41:53 2015.

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$5M of service cuts are going to hurt.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 30 16:14:23 2015, in response to NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by GOlD_12tH on Fri Jan 30 13:41:53 2015.

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Bring back MTA!

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jan 30 17:19:32 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 30 16:14:23 2015.

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I believe the state would have to pay them directly for that to happen...and it could.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jan 31 12:08:53 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by italianstallion on Fri Jan 30 16:14:23 2015.

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But was the MTA proposing budget problems and service cuts just as bad as NICE is. Why replace NICE/Veolia with the MTA if the MTA would just be proposing the same thing?

The more pressing question is why does it seem that riders are pressing for changes or at least now not for the fare to go up and the governemnt seems un willing to attempt to find a solution.

I remember back in 2002 when Suffolk had to raise fares becuase of a budget problem. Riders complained and the fare went up but they recinded the fare increase quickly because they continued to look for a solution and worked with the state. The diffrences between this and that were that the County Executive and the governor were of the same party which probably helped in the state wanting to help, and Suffolk has always seems to have had a deficit when it comes to transit and still have been able to run the system without much problems.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 14:27:07 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jan 31 12:08:53 2015.

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Nassau County funding their own bus system is a joke for decades. MTA has help Nassau to fund on Nassau County buses since 1973. They voted the guy who can't even fix the Nassau County finance problems in his term.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jan 31 15:40:06 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 14:27:07 2015.

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Does anyone here realize that tomorrow is February 1?

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jan 31 15:57:31 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jan 31 15:40:06 2015.

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I may have forgotten but why is tomorrow being Feb. 1 important?

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by merrick1 on Sat Jan 31 15:59:58 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 14:27:07 2015.

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NICE bus is bargain. A $112 thirty day Metro Card will take you from Babylon to Manhattan via the n72, n6, and the F train. Compare to $325 for an LIRR monthly ticket.

OTOH it will take more than twice as long and your bum will be numb after 2 1/2 hours on a hard plastic seat.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 16:01:24 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Jan 31 15:57:31 2015.

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Dan Lawrence thinks like a groundhog.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 16:02:44 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by merrick1 on Sat Jan 31 15:59:58 2015.

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That's if NICE shows up on-time which they hardly ever stick to their schedules.

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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jan 31 16:34:41 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 16:01:24 2015.

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I Don't Think like a groundhog. I realized tomorrow is February 1!!!


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Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?

Posted by GOlD_12tH on Sat Jan 31 16:42:18 2015, in response to Re: NICE Bus will raise base fare to $2.75, new $$$$ will not eliminate budget shortfall; cut service?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jan 31 16:34:41 2015.

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Sure Dan.

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