Home · Maps · About

Home > BusChat

[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]

(296825)

view threaded

1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by fdny on Wed Aug 20 21:47:25 2014

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Hi

Does anyone know any of the routings..i know there were 2 to 3 routes plus any variations.

Thanks

..
steve

Fdny Division 4

Post a New Response

(296830)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by gbs on Wed Aug 20 23:24:59 2014, in response to 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by fdny on Wed Aug 20 21:47:25 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Your question is a little vague, but here's what I remember:

Green Bus ran a special World's Fair bus from Rego Park to the fair (25 cents, when the regular fare was 15 cents). The buses were the newest in the fleet.

Triboro Bus ran a special bus from Forest Hills to the fair via 108 St. The buses I saw were their oldest, and had very few riders.

I recall that there were also special buses from Brooklyn, but I don't know any details.

There was a bus "depot" on 111 St near the Terrace on the Park.


Post a New Response

(296833)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:47:32 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by gbs on Wed Aug 20 23:24:59 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
HE NYCTA RAN 2 ROUTES FROM BROOKLYN B80 FROM FLATBUSH/NOSTRAND, FLATBUSH,FLATLANDS,RKWY PKY, HEGEMAN AVE, NEW LOTS FOUNTAIN,SUTTER, ATLANTIC TO FAIR....B81 VIA EST PKY /UTICA PITKIN RKWY AVE FULTON ST ATLANTIC TO FAIR. BO RAN EVRY 20MIN 900A-1140P RUNNING TIME 56MIN
B81 9A-1230A EVERY 30 MIN RUNNING TIME 47 MIN. ACCORDING TO BULLETIN ISSUED 1964-54 FLATBUSH AND EAST NEW YORK WERE RESPONSIBLE PICK WAS HELD AT ENY WHERE ORIGINAL SCHOOL ROOM WAS ON SIDE OF DEPOT

Post a New Response

(296834)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details..typing error

Posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:53:40 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:47:32 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Correction B80 is the line that ran every 20 the BO drove it

Post a New Response

(296837)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by fdny on Thu Aug 21 08:23:32 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:47:32 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Thank you

Post a New Response

(296838)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by fdny on Thu Aug 21 08:35:38 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by gbs on Wed Aug 20 23:24:59 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Mr Gbs..i am looking for the..the starting pt...and the actual.street routings
..via ,,,,,,,,............

Thank.you

Post a New Response

(296840)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by BusRider on Thu Aug 21 09:39:19 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:47:32 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Was there any other special routes over the years, I seen a sign on eBay reading an X61 and I remember an X80 and 81 being an event special as well. In response to another post of yours a buddy of mine does the same thing logs his bus numbers run start times he's been around 30 years.

Post a New Response

(296849)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Aug 21 11:50:37 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by BusRider on Thu Aug 21 09:39:19 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
The X80 still exists, it runs from Lexington Avenue and 125th Street, via 124th Street and the Triboro to Randall's Island. On the way back it runs via 126th Street. It runs out of 126th Street. That's for concerts and events at Randall's. The X81 no longer runs, it ran from Woodside to Randall's.

Post a New Response

(296854)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Thu Aug 21 12:12:00 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by BusRider on Thu Aug 21 09:39:19 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
The X61 was the MaBSTOA version of the BxM3 starting at 261-BWAY.

Post a New Response

(296857)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by fdny on Thu Aug 21 12:18:52 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Aug 21 11:50:37 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Hi..

Thank u

The X81 still runs...special events..Randalls Island ..i was assigned to FDNY Academy
...the stadium holds concerts and sports events

Steve

Fdny

Post a New Response

(296875)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Dan on Thu Aug 21 19:05:36 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Wed Aug 20 23:47:32 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
We took that Flatbush/Nostrand B80 to the WF in 1964. TA was so cheap they didn't even buy air-conditioned buses for a special service. Took forever to get to the Worlds Fair. Was the fare $1?

Post a New Response

(296876)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Thu Aug 21 19:19:41 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by Dan on Thu Aug 21 19:05:36 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Fare on the B80 and B81 was 25 cents . The B58 was designated a Worlds Fair route in the memos but fare was as it was for local service 15 cents

Post a New Response

(296925)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by northshore on Fri Aug 22 16:23:52 2014, in response to 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by fdny on Wed Aug 20 21:47:25 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Queens Transit ran a shuttle route from Main & Roosevelt in Flushing to World's Fair Rodman Gate on Rodman St (now College Point Blvd.).The new 5302's (106-110) in all orange were used. Destination read "World's Fair" -no route no. Fare was 15 cents.

Post a New Response

(296951)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Fri Aug 22 19:57:45 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by northshore on Fri Aug 22 16:23:52 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
What was Greyhound role? Shuttles around the fair?

Post a New Response

(296956)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Fri Aug 22 23:26:38 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by TheHat on Fri Aug 22 19:57:45 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Greyhound ran fishbowls clockwise and counterclockwise around the perimeter of the grounds passing each of the 8 admission gates and making 35 stops around the fair the fare was 25c for one stop or a complete roundtrip ride. there were also glide a ride tractor trains, escorter single tractor tour vehicles and glass domed a/c buses for recorded lectures points of interest and grand tours. All these depending on what you wanted had various costs and lengths of time to see the fair. Greyhound operated 300 vehicles housed at the Greyhound pavilion which also had a Greyhound Company exhibit. Greyhound was located in the transportation area by the west drive below the Grand central pkwy boarded by the L.I.E.

Post a New Response

(296957)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Fri Aug 22 23:48:07 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Fri Aug 22 23:26:38 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks, I recall reading a brief description of their service, nowhere as detailed as yours. Do you know where they went/sold to after the fair?

Post a New Response

(296958)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Fri Aug 22 23:57:21 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by TheHat on Fri Aug 22 23:48:07 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
The buses I think I read at one time were sold to sightseeing compaines. Some of glide a rides were sold to amusement parks etc and I remember a pic of some of them and the escorters being junked on a flatbed. Like everything from the fair...things went waste with no thought of nostalgia or historic value


Post a New Response

(296961)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 00:25:44 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Fri Aug 22 23:57:21 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks!

Post a New Response

(296967)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by northshore on Sat Aug 23 03:44:43 2014, in response to 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by fdny on Wed Aug 20 21:47:25 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Queens Transit also ran parking lot shuttles from the huge, but remote parking lot on the Whitestone Expwy near Linden Pl (now the site of the NY Times printing plant) to the fairgrounds. Service was free (included in the parking fee). QT used old 5106's for the service.

Post a New Response

(296975)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 23 09:09:02 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Fri Aug 22 23:57:21 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Some of glide a rides were sold to amusement parks etc and I remember a pic of some of them and the escorters being junked on a flatbed. Like everything from the fair...things went waste with no thought of nostalgia or historic value.

On Season #3 of A&E's American Restoration "Escorter Service", a surviving Glide-A Ride was restored to operating condition. The air date was 1/9/13.

Bill Newkirk


Post a New Response

(296976)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Sat Aug 23 09:16:11 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by TheHat on Fri Aug 22 23:48:07 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
The buses I think I read at one time were sold to sightseeing compaines. Some of glide a rides were sold to amusement parks etc and I remember a pic of some of them and the escorters being junked on a flatbed. Like everything from the fair...things went waste with no thought of nostalgia or historic value


Post a New Response

(296977)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 23 09:17:52 2014, in response to 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by fdny on Wed Aug 20 21:47:25 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d

System: New York City Transit...Bus: #2116... Photo by: Willie Rosenberg
Collection of: Joe Testagrose...Date: 8/1965...from nycsubway.org

Post a New Response

(296984)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:30:13 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by northshore on Sat Aug 23 03:44:43 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
WOW, I think it would have been fun, just for the bus fanning. I was wasn't born until 81. Today is notas much fun to be a bus buff & B/o these days. Guys like you and the old timers here had all the fun. No offense w/ the old timer reference. I enjoy talking those guys and try never to miss the chance to do so.

Post a New Response

(296987)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by RetiredSLD on Sat Aug 23 11:58:58 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:30:13 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
I'll tell you I missed driving the old looks by 3 years but did shift it around the depot when we had it parked there, Mack 6259 mainly at flatbus but I drove every style of GM new look every style of Flexible new look and the first series of RTS delivered to Flatbush 1200's, 1300's, 1400's and PA 1600's. I wouldn't trade it for anything and it was a great time to drive and work. I can go on and on but I hope you get my drift.

Post a New Response

(296989)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 12:10:21 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Sat Aug 23 11:58:58 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
I do, I own a 1982 NYBS fishbowl. I have driven a PSNJ old look, and I thought I wouldn't like it, but i loved it. Taking it from Howell to Lakewood was a dream. When I worked at Academy I drove some ex-17 & 1800, 2600's in service and enjoyed every minute of it. Wish I could have one. I would today take Fishowl down %th & up Madison over an MCI, no power steering and all. It required better judgemnt & skill to get the job done IMO. Me I'm just a day late to the good times:(

Post a New Response

(296994)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by northshore on Sat Aug 23 14:36:18 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 23 09:17:52 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Notice the solid orange paint scheme on the Queens Transit fishbowl on the left. The solid orange scheme was from '63 to '67 (fishbowls only).

Post a New Response

(296996)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by northshore on Sat Aug 23 14:37:38 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Sat Aug 23 09:16:11 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Some escorters were used on the Atlantic City boardwalk.

Post a New Response

(296999)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Aug 23 15:52:57 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by RetiredSLD on Sat Aug 23 09:16:11 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Mostly Gray Line for their glass windows. Those Fishbowls were used for tours inside the park. The Fishbowls without windows were used to bring guests from the parking lots to the admission gates.

Post a New Response

(297000)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Aug 23 15:58:24 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by northshore on Sat Aug 23 14:36:18 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Along with Adler Shoes and Flagg Brothers Shoes. Two of NYC fallen flag shoe store chains.

Post a New Response

(297021)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Aug 24 00:06:59 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 23 09:17:52 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Interesting. The brand new Flxible that my mother and I rode to the Fair in the spring of 1964 just had the headsign turned to blank. Maybe that sign wasn't available yet. We did return to the Fair shortly before it closed in 1965, but that time we went by train (3 from Sterling St to Times Square, then 7 WF Super Express to the Fair. Coming home, I think it was a regular local 7 and then the 3.


Post a New Response

(297025)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 24 06:42:04 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Aug 24 00:06:59 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
eresting. The brand new Flxible that my mother and I rode to the Fair in the spring of 1964 just had the headsign turned to blank.

From what I heard, only the #2000 series Fishbowls had the blue and white World's Fair signs. The buses that left from Nostrand and Flatbush Ave didn't.

I rode that bus once with my brother and cousin, but didn't remember anything about the headsign. only the very long journey in the back of an unaircondiotioned bus.

Bill Newkirk

Post a New Response

(297044)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by hound on Sun Aug 24 22:30:30 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by TheHat on Sat Aug 23 10:30:13 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Now you're really making me feel old!

Post a New Response

(297047)

view threaded

Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted

Posted by TheHat on Sun Aug 24 22:51:23 2014, in response to Re: 1964 --65 world fair details...wanted, posted by hound on Sun Aug 24 22:30:30 2014.

edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr
fiogf49gjkf0d
Don't mean to, but time marches on. I do enjoy your stories & those who came before me on this job.

Post a New Response


[ Return to the Message Index ]