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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Aug 17 21:23:56 2014, in response to S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Aug 17 17:39:45 2014. The weekend service should come back, but not with the route running in its current form. Extend the route to the ferry on the northern end (ideally, covering the western part of the S42 route), and have a branch of the S79 cover Giffords Lane. Otherwise, ridership is too low to justify bringing it back. |
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Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service |
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Posted by dkupf on Thu Aug 21 23:34:09 2014, in response to Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Aug 17 21:23:56 2014. Maybe if the S54 would operate via the SI Mall, instead of duplicating the S57, it would receive more riders and, in a few years, weekend service. |
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Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service |
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Posted by Checkmatechamp13 on Fri Aug 22 03:24:59 2014, in response to Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service, posted by dkupf on Thu Aug 21 23:34:09 2014. Sending the route to the ferry would instantly guarantee enough riders to justify weekend service, regardless of whether it goes to the mall or not.The only reason I don't like the idea of sending it to the mall is because of traffic on Rockland (the whole stretch east of Forest Hill Rd), which would delay the core ridership north of Seaview. Maybe a few trippers coming out of Yukon to help the Wagner kids (since they'd have to deadhead anyway), but that's about it. Weekends, traffic usually isn't too bad, though. The only problem is the confusion of having weekend trips start from the mall while weekday trips start from Seaview. Unless a token amount of trips covered. The mall during the week, but the S54 would still run on coverage-level headways anyway, so it's almost all-or-nothing. |
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Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Aug 22 10:21:35 2014, in response to Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service, posted by dkupf on Thu Aug 21 23:34:09 2014. It only duplicates the 57 where it needs to go across the mid-island; there is only the one realistic routing for it. I agree extending it to the ferry on Weekends would help the ridership numbers, but it would also increase the cost, since you would need to add buses to cover the schedule.A few years ago they were paving Rockland Ave between Brielle Ave and Manor Rd, they detoured the 54 and 57 several miles around it. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/readflat.asp?Id=240898&p=1 |
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Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Aug 22 17:20:43 2014, in response to Re: S.I. officials, community members call on MTA to restore S54 Weekend bus service, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Aug 22 10:21:35 2014. According to my calculations, it would only require 3 buses to run from Seaview to St. George. (Roughly 35-40 minutes of travel time each way, plus the layovers). The old S54 required 4 buses to operate on weekends. (And remember that you're also covering part of the old S42, which required 2 buses, though one of them was required to reroute the S52 through St. Marks Place)Now, covering Giffords Lane with the S79A is going to result in more buses being required. If you generously estimate a 3 hour cycle time, it would take 6 buses to provide 30 minute service (though you could almost certainly get rid of one bus by interlining with the regular S79, assuming you don't care about the SBS wraps). But on the bright side, you're providing additional capacity along Hylan, and between Brooklyn & SI. (In a worse-case scenario, you could always reduce the S79 from 10 minute headways to 12, since the S79A is taking a good chunk of S79 riders). |
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