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NY MTA will install "active collision avoidance" & "Pedestrians, bus is turning!" warning systems

Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 27 21:37:45 2014

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Safety initiatives:
1. Training and supervising bus drivers so they comply with all rules and perform to the highest safety standards.

2. Installing the latest “active collision avoidance systems” on buses and “pedestrian warning systems” to ensure the safety of passengers and pedestrians.

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/InvestmentProposals2015_2018.htm

Will it increase noise complaints? :)

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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Jul 27 23:32:47 2014, in response to NY MTA will install "active collision avoidance" & "Pedestrians, bus is turning!" warning systems, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 27 21:37:45 2014.

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Cleveland installed a similar exterior audio announcement system for turning buses on some of their NABIs (if not all of them; I'm heading back there in a couple weeks, so I'll have better info by then).

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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by BusMgr on Mon Jul 28 13:57:04 2014, in response to NY MTA will install "active collision avoidance" & "Pedestrians, bus is turning!" warning systems, posted by Gold_12th on Sun Jul 27 21:37:45 2014.

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I see two potential issues.

First, increased noise pollution from exterior annunciators that may annoy neighboring residents.

Second, installation of such a system may reduce the attentiveness and/or care of bus drivers who reason that, so long as there is an annunciator "warning" pedestrians, that the duty to avoid a collision is transferred from themselves to the pedestrians. This could lead to bus drivers just blindly turning, and exercising less care, resulting in an increased number of pedestrian injuries and fatalities. (A close analogy exists with marked pedestrian crosswalks. Studies show that pedestrians are less attentive when crossing in a marked pedestrian crosswalk, compared to unmarked pedestrian crosswalk, because many pedestrians have a false sense of security when using a marked crosswalk, and they exercise more care when using an unmarked crosswalk.)



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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by The ORION Kid on Mon Jul 28 14:41:53 2014, in response to Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems, posted by ctrabs74 on Sun Jul 27 23:32:47 2014.

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NJT has been using it for a few years and we'll be getting a similar system from the same company. NICE has the same system on their Orion 3Gs but it doesn't always work. Here's a video of the NJT announcement:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4yaZw-BgMis

Also coming with this are interior automated stop announcements, about damn time.

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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 28 14:54:03 2014, in response to Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems, posted by The ORION Kid on Mon Jul 28 14:41:53 2014.

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That's because NICE repairs NOTHING because they have an absence of spare parts.

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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by The ORION Kid on Mon Jul 28 14:56:32 2014, in response to Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 28 14:54:03 2014.

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You'd think the parts for that equipment would be easy to get. The company that makes them (Clever Devices) is based and builds their products right in Nassau.

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Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Jul 28 15:03:09 2014, in response to Re: NY MTA will install ''active collision avoidance'' & ''Pedestrians, bus is turning!'' warning systems, posted by The ORION Kid on Mon Jul 28 14:56:32 2014.

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NICE can't afford to buy them!

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