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NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 21:40:28 2014 $41.5 million for 63 buses... original option order was 76.Q2 of 2015 when the new option order buses arrives. http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/customer_service_committe_meeting.pdf |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Wed May 21 02:31:36 2014, in response to NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 21:40:28 2014. Keeping the DesignLines they have - interesting. EPV apparently assumed the remaining warranty coverage on those."As a consequence of these events, DesignLine did not deliver the remaining 63 CNG buses under contract with NJ TRANSIT and an action has been filed on behalf of NJ TRANSIT with the Bankruptcy Court where the matter is now pending." This part of the statement implies NJT still wants their $3.6M in late fees that DL noted as a BK debt back in August. In addition to likely using the new ZF axles/suspension that would cut the turning radius by 6 feet, I would venture a safe guess that NJT wants the small quad-headlight setup that the NABIs and DesignLines have and that MCI already uses on the J4500. If so, it would likely look similar to the Prevost X3-45's headlight arrangement. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by busdude2 on Wed May 21 18:14:10 2014, in response to NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 20 21:40:28 2014. Well Howell has about 170 buses that need to be retired soon. So this order of 84 plus 63 and assuming they keep the 12 designlines would total 159 pretty close. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by The ORION Kid on Wed May 21 19:09:40 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by busdude2 on Wed May 21 18:14:10 2014. I can see this order sending off all the buses at Howell to other depots excep (probably)t the MTA rejects since they're Howell oddballs. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by busdude2 on Thu May 22 05:09:38 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by The ORION Kid on Wed May 21 19:09:40 2014. The 9000's also would stay around they are only 8 years old. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 11:23:17 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by busdude2 on Thu May 22 05:09:38 2014. You guys have to remember that there is an order for Hybrids coming also. The way I figured it Howell should lose everything but the 7100s once the orders for CNGs and Hybrids come in.As far as the 9000s from what I hear for the Howell drivers, they would rather those go ASAP. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by The ORION Kid on Sat May 24 11:27:06 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 11:23:17 2014. The hybrids aren't for Howell, they're going down south IIRC. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 16:24:06 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by The ORION Kid on Sat May 24 11:27:06 2014. Howell is considered a Southern Division garage and IIRC, the press release mentioned that the hybrids were gonna be for service from South Jersey to New York City. To me that means Howell and Egg Harbor with Egg Harbor getting restroom equip'd units. They are gonna have fun trying to fit all the crap people bring on the 319 in just the first baggage bay! |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 24 17:21:09 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 16:24:06 2014. There's no space for second baggage bay unless it is taken up hyshit equipment room? |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 19:43:07 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 24 17:21:09 2014. The center bay is taken up by the wheelchair lift and the rear bay has the hybrid equipment. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by The ORION Kid on Sun May 25 00:05:48 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 16:24:06 2014. I heard from South Jersey to Philly. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sun May 25 00:53:58 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by The ORION Kid on Sun May 25 00:05:48 2014. When the USDOT/FTA grants were first announced, Howell was mentioned as getting all 197 alternative-fuel buses and all of their diesels would be retired or transferred along with the retirement of the older CNGs - the increased seat/standee count and improved range over the outgoing CNGs would make the 160 new CNGs more effective replacements for the diesels. The 197 45-foot units would also be enough in seat count to cover all normal schedules.NJT is certainly allowed to change their minds, but that was the stated original plan several years ago. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon May 26 17:56:11 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Hudson Transit on Sat May 24 19:43:07 2014. Why don't they just forget about CNG ?They are restricted from parts of PABT and their tanks expire before the rest of the bus does. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon May 26 18:47:18 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by Joe V on Mon May 26 17:56:11 2014. NJ has a federal grant for alternative fuels.New CNG tanks have a lifespan of 20 years. |
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Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order |
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Posted by SJP7121 on Mon Jun 2 12:34:14 2014, in response to Re: NJ Transit awarded MCI (D4500) for 63 CNG buses on the option order, posted by kcram3500 on Wed May 21 02:31:36 2014. You know, I wondered why NJT doesn't allow cruise control on the howell coaches. I mean, it's not a real long distance as what Greyhound does but that's just me. I know when I did the 319 at times, especially those express to Atlantic City at times skipping Toms River (Sometimes we did that when we had 2 buses because of overcrowding and more Toms than AC), I'd like to have CC. Relax my foot a little.As for the light set up, all I wish to see is personally the old D4500 light set up, not that ugly diamond one. I don't like it personally. Rather have more light bulbs so people can see me. I drive the newer D4505's now for Greyhound and to me when I have to use high beams at night when it's dark, the brightness is not as good as a old D4500 or a 102DL3. Hell, the Prevost X3-45 lighting is better than the D4500. And I love MCI's. |
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