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Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1) |
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Posted by the Silence on Thu Nov 21 13:13:19 2013, in response to Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1), posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Nov 20 23:41:56 2013. They have to tell you. yes, but you have to LISTEN two. It's a two way street. |
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Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 21 16:15:02 2013, in response to Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1), posted by the Silence on Thu Nov 21 13:13:19 2013. Of course. |
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Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 21 16:16:27 2013, in response to Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1), posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 21 13:09:54 2013. What do you mean by not required to make accommodations? |
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Re: Commuters want B44 stops restored to new SBS route (Avenue L stop) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 21 16:30:38 2013, in response to Re: Commuters want B44 stops restored to new SBS route (Avenue L stop), posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 21 01:07:31 2013. It applies to a small percentage of users, but that is not the point. No one should have to pay double fare because of a service change.If it is a large number like in the thousands, the MTA plays the percentage game saying its only 5% of the passengers so it's not a problem. They will ignore the raw number. Similarly, when a number is small like 6, and they want to make it sound big, they say 20% instead to make it sound huge. They are constantly playing games with numbers. They always quote operating costs in annual numbers so it's in the many thousands, so it sounds like they can't afford it when you might be speaking of $10 extra per trip which could be paid for by four new fares. In MTA lingo, anything over a thousand is a big number and anything smaller is miniscule. You should never use percentages without raw numbers. Remember 1 is 50% of 2 and 100% of nothing is still nothing. |
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Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1) |
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Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 21 17:38:48 2013, in response to Re: ''I don't know how to use it, it wasn't explained properly.'' B44 SBS... (NY-1), posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Nov 21 16:16:27 2013. They don't have to wait while you leave to obtain the proper fare. |
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Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 18:46:53 2013, in response to Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS, posted by JAzumah on Tue Nov 19 12:36:56 2013. As far as I can tell the only time the claimed to consider revenue in their planning of new or changed routes was for the route they rerouted for the Aqueduct Racino. And I don't even believe them there because the amout of revenue they predicted tey would get just happened to be the exact amount they needed. There was no analyses done as to how many riders were inconvenienced by that change by having 5 minutes added to thir trip. That has a dollar figure attached to it ion terms of time wasted by those riders.They once rejected a proposal I made to them solely by saying it would cost $50,000 extra per year. If that were the case I figured that two new fares per bus would pay for that. Although it made te route accessible to hundreds of houses, the MTA assumed no additional passengers. Further, even without added revenue, it was a cost neutral proposal because it added zero time to the route, but it was a quarter mile longer. They considered the extra distance but ignored the fact that the time stayed the same. Bottom line. If they thought of it, it is a good idea. If you thought of it, they can't do it. |
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Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 18:49:45 2013, in response to Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 18:46:53 2013. Now that I think of it, my proposal wasn't even a quarter mile longer. They measured the existing route wrong by failing to consider the turn around between the last and first stop. I am talking about the B42. |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 18:58:21 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by B49 Limited on Mon Nov 18 09:39:40 2013. This should answer your question.http://media.ny1.com/media/2013/11/22/video/B44busPKG_12841633.mp4 |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 23 18:58:24 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by B49 Limited on Mon Nov 18 09:39:40 2013. This should answer your question.http://media.ny1.com/media/2013/11/22/video/B44busPKG_12841633.mp4 |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 23 19:51:58 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by B49 Limited on Mon Nov 18 09:39:40 2013. All the new routings were fully aired before the Community Board. Where were these people? |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Nov 23 20:02:24 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by B49 Limited on Mon Nov 18 09:39:40 2013. Took the B44 local today. We had standees most of the way, but the bus never became crush loaded.There were also a few trips signed up to terminate at Fulton Street. Is it added local service? |
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Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Nov 23 20:04:18 2013, in response to Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS, posted by B49 Limited on Mon Nov 18 09:36:30 2013. There is a sign up at the Avenue L bus shelter. It asks riders to call 311 and complain every day until a SBS stop is added. |
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Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Sat Nov 23 22:24:30 2013, in response to Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Nov 23 20:04:18 2013. Put one at Avenue R too. |
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Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Nov 23 23:16:03 2013, in response to Re: Pol to announced to MTA to restore the Ave L stop on the B 44 SBS, posted by Nyctransitman on Sat Nov 23 22:24:30 2013. I don't know if one has been posted there, I've had no reason to travel south of Kings Highway. |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Nov 24 09:58:50 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 23 19:51:58 2013. People have to see things happen. Notifications are not sufficient. People have to stand at the bus stop and see the plan in action, namely huge buses passing them by, before they consider taking action.Maybe instead of or in addition to notifications, MTA should prepare people for changes by doing rehearsal days of the new service. If even one weekday of a rehearsal was done for this, I wonder if the reactions would have stopped the proposal right in its tracks. |
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Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 24 11:30:26 2013, in response to Re: Mixed comments on B44 local & SBS .... (News 12), posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Nov 24 09:58:50 2013. Most people have no connections with their community boards and not everyone is on the Internet. They needed more notices on the buses for at least 30 days in advance which they didn't do. All they did was to announce the start date on all the buses a few days before. There are a lot of intracacies involved like removal of stops and prepayment and that the local would no longer go to Williamsburg Plaza. None of that was publicized widely. Also someone tell me why the machines are not located near the bus shelters and where the buses stop to make it obvious you have to pre pay? |
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