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Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Mar 17 20:14:33 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Thu Mar 17 16:51:43 2011. I would assume that because from what i know Suffolk doesn't get any money from the MTA to run Suffolk Transit.Suffolk Transit is funded by 1) Suffolk County, 2) Fares, and 3) State transit funds (or something like that) Its been well documented that in the past that Nassau gets more money from the state then Suffolk does for their bus system. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Mar 17 20:23:12 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 17 07:31:21 2011. I know what NIFA stands for, will they takeover the Nassau County's $? |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Mar 17 22:33:44 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Mar 17 20:14:33 2011. If the state DOT website is correct, the formula for state aid is $.405 per passenger and $.69 per vehicle mile operated. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Mar 17 22:39:06 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Mar 17 20:23:12 2011. From what i can tell the have, Mangano claims that they are asking him to cut some more money and thats why there will be lay offs on July 1st. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Mar 17 22:41:51 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Mar 17 22:33:44 2011. I have no idea how its figured out, i just know Suffolk claims to get less then Nassau. I believe they said that its just a tad more then they get back in fares, or less then they get back in fares. (i'm not exactly sure since the claim was made five or six years ago i believe) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 17 22:49:20 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Mar 17 22:33:44 2011. It is correct, but some agencies are getting extra help. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 17 23:35:25 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Mar 17 17:09:08 2011. If those LIB CNG buses were to have been moved to places like JG, I think they would've been reseated. So that wouldn't be a big issue. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 17 23:36:13 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Nova LFSA 1289 on Thu Mar 17 18:00:55 2011. Problems with the way the Nassau depots takes care of the buses? |
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Posted by Mr RT on Fri Mar 18 07:53:22 2011, in response to Re: PARTY TIME, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Mar 17 05:03:19 2011. SubSurf, There will be no way to do a "Field Trip" to the Beachs of Rock & Long :-( |
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Posted by Mr RT on Fri Mar 18 07:59:33 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Train2104 on Thu Mar 17 18:52:18 2011. There is a federal law that may kick in & force the new operator to "hire" the existing employees, at their current pay rates for three years. It's an old law that came into being when there were a lot of mergers of railroads in the US going on.It applied to MTA Bus Co., i.e. the result of the "privates" going away. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 18 09:17:29 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Mar 17 22:41:51 2011. I have no idea how its figured out, i just know Suffolk claims to get less then Nassau. I believe they said that its just a tad more then they get back in fares, or less then they get back in fares. (i'm not exactly sure since the claim was made five or six years ago i believe)According to the National Transit Database for 2009, MSBA gets 44 percent of its operating funds from the State ($59.6M) and 31 percent from fare revenue ($42.9M). Suffolk gets 42 percent of its operating funds from the State ($21.9M) and 15 percent from the farebox ($7.6M). Suffolk did get significantly less State assistance in 2004 (29% State/20% farebox) versus MSBA (42% State/36% farebox). |
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Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 18 09:17:54 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Mar 17 22:33:44 2011. If the state DOT website is correct, the formula for state aid is $.405 per passenger and $.69 per vehicle mile operated.In 2009, MSBA got 2.6 times that, and Suffolk got 1.9 times that. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Mar 18 09:42:31 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by JAzumah on Thu Mar 17 22:49:20 2011. As I understand it, local governments are required under the STOA funding formula to match a certain amount. Does anyone know what Nassau's required match is? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 18 10:00:18 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Mr RT on Fri Mar 18 07:59:33 2011. The old Section 13c (now called something more interesting) does not apply to private operators. That law was in place to protect employees of private carriers from being dumped by the public sector. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 18 10:02:22 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Mar 18 09:42:31 2011. The amount isn't specified, but it is required in most cases. |
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Posted by mac5689 on Fri Mar 18 11:09:04 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Mar 18 09:17:29 2011. Then it was in 2004, i remember that the claim was made sometime after Levy had taken office. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Fri Mar 18 14:20:35 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 18 10:00:18 2011. Gee, I thought it was one private RxR being taken over by another private RxR ? |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Fri Mar 18 19:17:56 2011, in response to Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by B53RICH on Wed Mar 16 22:39:56 2011. SO...I don't think that anyone has asked this question but obviously the NEW owners are going to keep the CNG buses.Um...what about the ex-NYCT MCI for the L.I.R.R. Shuttle? Will they be scrapped? Those DAMN sure belong to the MTA. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Mar 18 20:14:15 2011, in response to Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by B53RICH on Wed Mar 16 22:39:56 2011. If a private company is going to take over with a low subsidy, they're going to have to have barebones service or start brainstorming to keep it profitable. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 18 20:56:30 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by The TransitMan on Fri Mar 18 19:17:56 2011. Those eight buses will probably be stored at an MTA Bus garage...I would expect it to be College Point. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Sat Mar 19 00:54:02 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Thu Mar 17 16:51:43 2011. Then it seems to me that Nassau is simply wasting its time asking the MTA for a cut of the payroll tax. As I said, if Nassau somehow gets its way on this issue, watch for Westchester, Suffolk, Rockland, and Dutchess to demand the same thing.Considering the economic state of affairs in Albany, this can't bode well at all. |
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Posted by hound on Sat Mar 19 01:08:17 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 18 20:56:30 2011. They have 10 MCIs. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Mar 19 01:38:54 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by hound on Sat Mar 19 01:08:17 2011. Do you know which ones are there now? I have 1885-1890 and 1893 listed. They "had" 1924, as you see here: Up until last week when I saw it here:  LIB also had 1922 and 1927. Both buses appear to be off of the roster. Have A Nice Day! |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Mar 21 17:56:43 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat Mar 19 01:38:54 2011. I think MCI #1885-1890, #1892-1893 is ALL they have. I know I'm missing one though. By the way, nice pictures! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 21 19:07:07 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Mar 21 17:56:43 2011. Delete 1892 and add in 1924. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 21 19:07:35 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 21 19:07:07 2011. Okay, keep 1892. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 21 20:39:45 2011, in response to Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by B53RICH on Wed Mar 16 22:39:56 2011. A news 12 report tonight stated that Nassau would pay 7 Million to what ever private company they would hire to run LIB. |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Mon Mar 21 21:21:19 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by Mac5689 on Mon Mar 21 20:39:45 2011. So now the story changes again... |
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Posted by gOlD_12tH on Mon Mar 21 21:42:06 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by R40slantontheB on Mon Mar 21 21:21:19 2011. I have a question...Is Greg Mocker doing a report with you that is airing tonight? |
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Posted by R40slantontheB on Mon Mar 21 22:03:28 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by gOlD_12tH on Mon Mar 21 21:42:06 2011. I believe so |
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Posted by B53RICH on Mon Mar 21 22:19:01 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by R40slantontheB on Mon Mar 21 22:03:28 2011. Was just watching the report, Greg Mocker and John riding 1760. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Mar 21 22:24:48 2011, in response to Re: Nassau: Private company to run LI Bus, posted by R40slantontheB on Mon Mar 21 22:03:28 2011. It was. I LOL'd @ seeing a subchatter on PIX 11 news, how did the B/O of the 1700 bus react when you got on with Greg Mocker and the camera guy? I remember NJT police harassed channel 7 reporter Dave Evans when they tried in film on the platform @ Newark Penn station (I saw it in person) |
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