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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Sep 7 02:52:34 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 01:03:50 2009. #708 is the oldest as #709-751 are a year behind them...like the rest of the ex-DOT Orion CNGs. Correct? |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Sep 7 04:13:24 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 23:19:35 2009. Why is that? I think Van Hool is too expensive to win low bid contracts consistently. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Mon Sep 7 05:30:12 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 22:49:35 2009. Nabi builds buses in Alabama, that buy NY clause is still in the contract bid. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Sep 7 08:04:55 2009, in response to New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 22:30:29 2009. How much would it cost to get the tanks replaced on the C40LFs? I think that these buses might be in the best shape - unless NYCT just wants to get rid of NFI buses. I think that yes the O5CNGs need to be replaced - the NYCT ones cause of age and the MTA Bus ones cause of where some of them came from (Triboro) where they may not have had the best maintenance - and possibly the whole low floor initiative. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 08:09:40 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Mon Sep 7 08:04:55 2009. I thought Triboro took pretty decent care (to their standards) of their 05CNG's when they had them.As for the RTS CNG's..........that was a whole 'nother matter! When MTA took over, they never turned a wheel in service, as while they were re-numbered, they were immediately retired. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 7 09:09:43 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 6 23:59:00 2009. no response, typical... |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 7 09:14:12 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by lbt 9415 on Mon Sep 7 02:40:03 2009. ha, nice |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 09:18:55 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Sep 7 02:52:34 2009. 708 is already 12 years old. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 09:35:50 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Sep 7 09:09:43 2009. Maybe he's not on line today yet.....like eating breakfast.........or doing something else and hasn't gotten to his computer yet. After all, he only posted that 9 1/2 hours ago.Give the man a chance! |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by mci guy on Mon Sep 7 09:44:50 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 08:09:40 2009. they had a bad leaning problem. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Mon Sep 7 12:14:11 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 6 23:01:21 2009. I think he means there's 3 possibilities of which company will take the winning bid. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Mon Sep 7 12:15:01 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by R160 8818 on Mon Sep 7 12:14:11 2009. I think he means there's 3 possibilities as to* which company will get the contract*. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:04:11 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 08:09:40 2009. Uh, yes they did...   -Trevor |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Sep 7 14:05:44 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by R160 8818 on Mon Sep 7 01:18:10 2009. So why does LIB operate tanks over 12 years? Sounds like a safety issue to me. So LIB should get the new buses. |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:10:31 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Sep 7 14:05:44 2009. Because they could've easily recertified the tanks for more years.-Trevor |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:16:31 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:04:11 2009. I was actually refering to the RTS CNG's that MTA Bus inherited from TCC being retired because they did not take care of them at all. I didn't know at least one was transfered.MTA Bus, from what I observed, never ran one of these out of LGA once they took over. I was aware other depots ran them, like Spring Creek, who actually did maintance on them! I am equally suprised that former LGA RTS CNG's did run on Spring Creek routes for a time, but I'd wager a very short time. I'd bet 7164 was one of the few that survived LGA. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Sep 7 14:21:35 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:16:31 2009. Some ex-TBC's on the B100:  
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Sep 7 14:23:23 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:16:31 2009. But you are right, they were there for maybe a few months and then eventually replaced by the hybrids. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:25:00 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:16:31 2009. 1? Oh man, most of them were transferred to Spring Creek and they actually ran longer than the Command ones. True, they never ran out of LGA and that was due to the fact that MTA Bus set forth the move to shut down CNG operations out of LGA. So the first buses moved were the CNG RTS to Spring Creek, then soon followed the Orion 5s to College Point and Spring Creek which in turn displaced TMC RTS Diesels to LGA and other depots.We got almost a good year out of the ex-Triboro CNG RTSs before they were retired. All of them were given a good fixing up mechanically before being sent to Spring Creek and they ran rather well there. They were actually retired right at the 12 year Tank life mark at the end of 2006.  John Simpson Photo  Ozzy Zamora Photo  Ozzy Zamora Photo -Trevor |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:30:28 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:25:00 2009. Thanks. 7167, especially, looked pretty good! |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Sep 7 14:35:51 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 09:18:55 2009. I rest my case....thanks! |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Sep 7 14:40:09 2009, in response to New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 22:30:29 2009. You see. I knew the MTA had to think fast here. These buses were approaching their time and in this case, the MTA had to think fast. I HOPE it's New Flyer putting a bid on this BUT I'll settle for the Orion 07.501 "NG" Low Floor CNG.Ain't This A Bitch! |
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Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Sep 7 18:47:20 2009, in response to Re: 135 CNG buses: 90 - NYCT; 45 - MTA Bus... option: 195 - NYCT & 180 - MTA Bus... NO LIB, posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:10:31 2009. OK. I hope they do that with the PBL 05's...I love them! |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Mon Sep 7 18:48:21 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Sep 7 14:21:35 2009. And those had the Cummins L10G engine. I remember being in Queens and hearing them and first thinking I was no where near a LI Bus route. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 20:46:09 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by The TransitMan on Mon Sep 7 14:40:09 2009. New Flyer could submit the C40LF, but I actually see Orion beating out New Flyer, especially with New Flyer's problems of late. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 21:12:23 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 20:46:09 2009. Those problems are internal. New Flyer is still delivering buses either ahead of schedule or on-time.-Trevor |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 21:39:53 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Sep 7 14:16:31 2009. 7164 is/was an ex-TCC bus; the buses ran for about 10 months under MTA Bus. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by 9 local on Mon Sep 7 22:25:29 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 21:12:23 2009. I think he's talking about that article in the New York Times on New Flyer laying off a substantial amount of its workforce. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 7 22:29:00 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by 9 local on Mon Sep 7 22:25:29 2009. Yup---the St. Cloud plant is undergoing a major downsizing. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Sep 8 00:57:01 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Mon Sep 7 14:25:00 2009. Here's 7170: I will have a few more to post. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Sep 8 01:15:08 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Sep 8 00:57:01 2009. The rest of the photos:7154 and 7155  7156  7160  7160  7163  I miss these buses too. They had awesome sounds as well as an awesome ride! Enjoy! |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Sep 8 11:04:23 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 23:17:05 2009. It also says "or can demonstrate that they have the ability to qualify"Granted, there's not much chance of that. |
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Posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 8 11:18:12 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Sep 8 11:04:23 2009. The only mfg that could possibly demonstrate that is NABI. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Tue Sep 8 15:09:56 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 23:17:05 2009. the disignline can be run on cng as well. It is approved by the MTA. The mta is making a mistake buying now. IT is widely speculated that Oboma will be giving subidies for transit operators to buy CNG. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Tue Sep 8 15:09:59 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by rionOne on Sun Sep 6 23:17:05 2009. the disignline can be run on cng as well. It is approved by the MTA. The mta is making a mistake buying now. IT is widely speculated that Oboma will be giving subidies for transit operators to buy CNG. |
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Posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 8 15:15:20 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by brightonr68 on Tue Sep 8 15:09:59 2009. The ONLY push is that you have buses that are gonna loose thier CNG Tank certification here soon, so they gotta do what they gotta do.-Trevor |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 8 20:14:55 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Sep 7 00:36:51 2009. However, you have 100 buses unaccounted for. |
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Posted by systemwide on Tue Sep 8 20:56:40 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by busdude2 on Mon Sep 7 05:30:12 2009. Who created/thought of the 'Buy NY clause, when was it created/first enforced & why was it created? Is there a kickback on taxes or price of the buses if they are built in New York?I ask this because I don't know much about it, although I've heard it a lot within the past few years. Any information is appreciated. Thank you in advance. |
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Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Sep 8 21:02:03 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by systemwide on Tue Sep 8 20:56:40 2009. I think Pataki. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 8 21:14:40 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by systemwide on Tue Sep 8 20:56:40 2009. why was it created?to create/keep jobs and tax revenues in NYS would be my guess |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Sep 8 21:26:35 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 8 20:14:55 2009. Tell me, Where is LIB in the document? |
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Posted by rionOne on Tue Sep 8 21:29:02 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Sep 8 21:26:35 2009. No where, there is just 100 buses in the purchase that don't have an assignement and all he's saying is that, that alloment COULD POSSIBLY go to Long Island Bus. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Tue Sep 8 21:37:20 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by systemwide on Tue Sep 8 20:56:40 2009. Political patronage. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Sep 8 23:07:31 2009, in response to Re: New York MTA to purchase 135 CNG Low Floors., posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Sep 8 21:26:35 2009. MTA Bus is an open ended entity. MTA Bus can procure buses for any of the agencies and distribute them as needed. |
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