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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 3 21:13:32 2009, in response to CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 21:09:36 2009. I would believe that it is one of the ex-TOR units (the ex-GO units and ex-Bee-Line units are all 102A2s; this is a 96A2). It is the only one. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 3 22:35:56 2009, in response to CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 21:09:36 2009. Whoever's idea it was is a smart person, obviously. |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 23:10:28 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 3 22:35:56 2009. I disagree. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 3 23:24:38 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 23:10:28 2009. Look at the bright side---it's an improvement over their Gilligs. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 3 23:31:29 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 23:10:28 2009. That's why you're not making the money he is! |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 01:49:55 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 3 23:31:29 2009. Yeah until someone comes along with a better quality product... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 4 06:57:24 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 01:49:55 2009. He's already made tons of money! |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 12:07:33 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 4 06:57:24 2009. Doesn't matter, someone comes along with a better product and take that business, money doesn't last forever... |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jun 4 12:33:17 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 12:07:33 2009. Those sightseeing buses are a racket. I don't get how the city allowed these two companies to become partners, because there's no 'competition' at all - CitySights matches the Gray Line routes and rates almost exactly. The pricing methods used by both of those sightseeing companies is worse than Disney. Individual tour rates are ridiculously expensive by design in order to convince the suckers ... er, tourists ... to spend another $15 to buy the multi-day on-off passes. Of course, once you've spent your money, you discover that the companies run the minimum number of coaches possible as you watch full bus after full bus pass you by unless you're getting on at Times Square or Battery Park. |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 13:21:48 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jun 4 12:33:17 2009. Exactly... |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Jun 4 13:28:25 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jun 4 12:33:17 2009. The city has no say in who becomes partners. The city only cares and controls about the revenue they generate from the cute little sightseeing bus plates.The sightseeing part is easy. It's the marketing that is so expensive. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Jun 4 15:26:36 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by JAzumah on Thu Jun 4 13:28:25 2009. Thus the reason why:Declining revenues + Higher expenses = Operational partnership and alliance Nobody ever said it was fair, just that it brought in money and kept them from going to operational extremes... |
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Posted by RTS_book on Thu Jun 4 17:47:38 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by RailBus63 on Thu Jun 4 12:33:17 2009. I never saw the point in these when I was there. A $7.50 daily Metrocard and a telephoto lens let me see almost the same stuff, yet at my own pace/discretion/etc.I suppose most of the sights I wanted to see were actually running on the *ground,* but oh well. For a NYC n00b, I still saw plenty of the city without resorting to these rip-offs... |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 4 18:09:43 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 3 23:31:29 2009. Are YOU making the money he is? I'm not running a business, he is, what does one have to do with the other? I merely just stated an opinion... |
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Posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jun 4 22:01:30 2009, in response to CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 21:09:36 2009. Okay this is not a MCI. Yes it has an MCI front and other parts but it is not a MCI. This is manufactured by specialty vehicles. |
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Posted by RTS_book on Thu Jun 4 22:03:02 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jun 4 22:01:30 2009. No, the Specialty buses look much different from this. This is obviously MCI derived. |
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Posted by RTS_book on Thu Jun 4 22:05:20 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by RTS_book on Thu Jun 4 22:03:02 2009. Specialty Tour Looper:
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Jun 4 22:17:27 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jun 4 22:01:30 2009. Looks like an MCI, or something else with an MCI front. I've seen this kind of a conversion done by a company called "Bus Body Works" of South Amboy NJ. |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 4 22:19:55 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by busmanpgh on Thu Jun 4 22:01:30 2009. Actually, this one is an MCI. It's a 96-A2, as previously mentioned in another post. I saw this bus up close and realized that it wasn't an SBM bus by the front and even the rear engine compartment, which CLEARLY was an MCI rear engine compartment. |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Jun 4 22:47:50 2009, in response to CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Wed Jun 3 21:09:36 2009. Still waiting for CitySights NY to due a RTS bus conversion. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 4 23:19:34 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Jun 4 22:47:50 2009. I would hope that it never happens (and for that matter, same for a Flxible Metro). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 4 23:59:21 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by rionOne on Thu Jun 4 12:07:33 2009. But that doesn't negate the fact that he's already made tons of money! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 5 00:01:39 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jun 4 18:09:43 2009. Huh? You said it wasn't a good idea. If you think making money in a wholesome and legitimate endeavor is a good idea, then you are being hypocritical. |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Jun 5 17:38:12 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 5 00:01:39 2009. Allow me to clarify: the fact that this guy is using any ol' bus to convert to a double-decker to make money is a good idea, which I'm not debating; using specifically a motorcoach (let alone an MCI) for that purpose isn't a good idea, at least for aesthetical purposes. An RTS or a Flxible as a double-decker isn't a bad idea either, in terms of getting buses to make money, but aesthetically it wouldn't be very appealing.And lay off the hyprocritical bullshit, no need for that. Like I said, legitimate or not, you made a comment about me not making the money he is making, which to be honest with you has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I don't like the appearance of an MCI-turn-double-decker bus. --Dr. C |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Fri Jun 5 17:41:45 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jun 3 23:24:38 2009. I suppose, but geez, an MCI? You couldn't just get more New Flyer LFs (which I think is a MUCH more suitable double-decker conversion than any of the high-floor buses, esp. being that most double deckers have a low-floor bottom section), it's not like there's none around...I mean, a number of agencies are retiring D40LFs, including the PANYNJ, Valley Metro, OCTA, and RIOC. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Jun 5 17:47:33 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 4 23:19:34 2009. Agreed. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Fri Jun 5 18:38:56 2009, in response to Re: CitySightsNY MCI double-decker..., posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Jun 4 22:47:50 2009. I...think I can wait for THAT to happen...:( |
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