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Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 10:31:43 2009 I have seen on there Web-Site that Easten Travel still runs buses for hem to NYC from Phill. ET buses start at a different location the MB does. My question is the buses that MB run are they all DD's are it's the luck of the draw? I want to ride a DD sometime next month with Railman before the end of the pick. We would take Septa from Trenton in to 30st station and MB to NYC and NJT back to Trenton.Any information would be great? I did call MB phone number and the person did not understand my question from what it sounded like. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 10:39:32 2009, in response to Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 10:31:43 2009. Regarding Megabus in the Northeast---it is all double-deckers (except for the M22 to Boston---this may change soon though because Megabus is leaving South Station and is moving to Back Bay, where there are no height restrictions---and the M27 to Albany.)Some of the Megabus MCIs have been transferred to Eastern Shuttle. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 10:43:05 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 10:39:32 2009. Yes - also as a tip, probably the best trip to take out of Philly going back to NY is the daily 11:45AM or 1:45PM trip - those two runs usually yield the lightest and have the best opportunity to have a seat on the upper level out of 30th Street, at least that's from my experience from what I see everyday. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 11:27:44 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 10:39:32 2009. So do all there buses start at 30th Streat statoin or do some start at 1021 Arch St. Becouse it still show the Arch st as Eastern buses run them? |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 11:39:13 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 11:27:44 2009. I now see how it works, ET runs the line to Lower Manhatten and MB runs to Midtown. So I have to book a bus from 30st station to the city, and all these buses are DD's. Me and Railman have all ready some what locked in the train to Phill and witch MB from Phill to NY will be taking. Thanks for guy help. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 11:55:25 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 11:27:44 2009. 30 Street is for Megabus, and 1021 Arch is for Eastern. Independence Mall now is for Megabus, but starting June 10, it will be for both Megabus and Eastern. In addition, on June 10, the line will essentially go almost 24-hour operation. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 12:19:37 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 11:55:25 2009. I saw that and I will be starting my trip out of 30 Street. I realy want to ride a DD's, we are looking at the 1:30pm but to the City. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Thu May 7 12:32:43 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 10:39:32 2009. Why doesn't the Albany line use DD's? |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 12:37:34 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by JohnnyMints on Thu May 7 12:32:43 2009. I'm not sure why, unless it is because of capacity. That line had been using Coach USA-branded single-deckers until they were transferred to Eastern Shuttle. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 14:56:37 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 10:43:05 2009. A seat on the upper level?!? If I was gonna ride a bus all the way from Philly to NYC, then it dammed better be in the FIRST row of the upper level. I'd get there really early to ensure it. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 14:57:31 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 7 11:39:13 2009. I see Eastern in Midtown... |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:32:33 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 14:57:31 2009. That's the M21 Baltimore/Washington service that departs from Megabus' stop location at 31st and 8th, Eastern only services Philadelphia from 3 Pike Street (there really is no need for both services to converge at Penn, the demand does not say otherwise - also it would create an even bigger mess than there already is). |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:33:34 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 12:37:34 2009. In time, they probably will use DD's - there have been talks of an extension of the M27 into Montreal in the near future....it may just be laying the ground work for now... |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:40:19 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 11:55:25 2009. I find it interesting that Mega kept their schedule intact for Philadelphia, unlike the M21, which it coordinated with Eastern's schedules - in theory, you could have swapped out one of Eastern's runs in the morning from Philly and added a Mega run in the 8AM-11:45AM gap they have in the morning...Also,the 3:09AM departure, is that a run from Washington via Philly, or is it just as timed? |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 7 17:53:16 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 14:56:37 2009. Wow, you talk as if that's a long ride. Hour and a half easy, never been more than 2 hours for me (except for one time on New Century it took about 3 and a half cuz the driver seemed fresh off the boat) |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 18:04:34 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 7 17:53:16 2009. For me, its an even two hours two times a week round trip - depending on how early the Friday traffic at the Lincoln begins, maybe 2:30hrs tops...however, it can get bad most days after 4PM inbound for that reason, I have been on Bolt when it took 4hrs. to get into NY, that was a 3:30PM departure from Philly - you just never know... |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 20:07:30 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:32:33 2009. ok, thanks. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 20:11:19 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 7 17:53:16 2009. Any ride on a bus is too long. You should know that by now.Ok, some rare mtab express bus rides are not too long. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Thu May 7 21:08:45 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 7 20:11:19 2009. 25 and a half hours from Puebla, Mexico to Austin, TX. 20 something hours from Wilmington, DE to Orlando, FL. I don't mind |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu May 7 21:45:18 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 10:39:32 2009. As long as the Back Bay stop is by the Orange Line, I'm all for it, my family in Boston is mostly along the OL. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 21:45:45 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:40:19 2009. There will be two interlines on Eastern each way---but that isn't one. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 21:47:10 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu May 7 21:45:18 2009. It is---by the MBTA station. |
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Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu May 7 22:37:32 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:32:33 2009. Wait, 3 Pike Street? Where in the world is that? They don't board from Manhattan bridge anymore....?Let's switch this around. I took "Eastern" last Sunday. The old office on 11th Street was closed, with nothing really directing anyone to the new location. Fortunately, I knew where the buses were parking recently (for Apex/Cherry) and went by there, where I saw people waiting for a bus that just didn't show up. There were major problems with the Broad Street Marathon going on, and buses were stuck in it. Granted, I knew about the take-over...I guess Cherry/Today's Travel is gone now, along with that Neoplan I never got to ride. Coach USA is using it's ex-Suburban MCIs or the Eastern Branded J/D4500/05 coaches for "Chinabus" service, and also happened to eliminate the Sunday 9AM run I used to take to New York. The 10 AM bus that I managed to board and ride out of town, which was Eastern branded, got into New York a different way than Today used to take it. Somehow, after coming out of the tunnel, we ended up at 36th and 8th Ave, and the driver (operator?) let us off at Penn Station, which I was more than happy about. Now that the schedule is different and dragonbus isn't online yet, where can I find the current schedule information? Is Eastern the "working name" for Today's Travel until Dragonbus comes into effect? Whatever happened to Apex? Is that also now an "Eastern" service until Coach USA runs it? I thought Coach USA wasn't inheriting equipment with this merger...are they apt to replace everything with the same damn MCIs? Sorry for the questions - everything is just rather confusing. Is Coach USA trying to "upgrade" the service (sure didn't look like it by the new office), or just trying to eliminate competition? It think it's the latter... Most importantly, are Eastern Buses to Philadelphia still boarding at Manhattan Bridge by Canal Street? If not, where is 3 Pike Street and what is the nearest subway line/station? |
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Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 23:19:15 2009, in response to Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu May 7 22:37:32 2009. Let me try to answer all of your questions piece by piece:Wait, 3 Pike Street? Where in the world is that? They don't board from Manhattan bridge anymore....? The stop location in Manhattan for Eastern is located off the intersection on Pike and Allen, a few steps away from East Broadway – probably the closest subway station would be the East Broadway (F) stop, here’s a map: http://www.easternshuttle.com/busstations.html Let's switch this around. I took "Eastern" last Sunday. The old office on 11th Street was closed, with nothing really directing anyone to the new location. Fortunately, I knew where the buses were parking recently (for Apex/Cherry) and went by there, where I saw people waiting for a bus that just didn't show up. There were major problems with the Broad Street Marathon going on, and buses were stuck in it. Granted, I knew about the take-over...I guess Cherry/Today's Travel is gone now, along with that Neoplan I never got to ride. Coach USA is using it's ex-Suburban MCIs or the Eastern Branded J/D4500/05 coaches for "Chinabus" service, and also happened to eliminate the Sunday 9AM run I used to take to New York. The stop location is 1021 Arch Street, (located right behind the pull-in location of the Greyhound Bus Terminal), otherwise known as Arch btwn. 10th and 11th – if we are talking about the same location, then this is the first I am hearing about the station being closed down – I know that the facility itself is very much run down with just fold down seats, and I have been there on numerous occasions in the past month, but I didn’t know it closed – they may be renovating it…. The 10 AM bus that I managed to board and ride out of town, which was Eastern branded, got into New York a different way than Today used to take it. Somehow, after coming out of the tunnel, we ended up at 36th and 8th Ave, and the driver (operator?) let us off at Penn Station, which I was more than happy about. That might have been a GO because some of those runs are interlined to go back as an M21 to Washington in terms of fleet utilization and operations – the line is supposed to use 3 Pike as the NY terminal. Now that the schedule is different and dragonbus isn't online yet, where can I find the current schedule information? Is Eastern the "working name" for Today's Travel until Dragonbus comes into effect? Whatever happened to Apex? Is that also now an "Eastern" service until Coach USA runs it? I thought Coach USA wasn't inheriting equipment with this merger...are they apt to replace everything with the same damn MCIs? There are numerous ways to get the schedule, best way is probably to go the Megabus website, search “New York-Philadelphia” and click on the June 10th schedules – that is probably the way to go, as the schedule change is coming up – in the interim, check either the Today’s Bus or Eastern Shuttle websites (they both have the same info) – they list the departures per day – Apex is an umbrella company for numerous Chinatown operators, sort of like a cooperative and they are the platform selling the tickets and branding the services, they are still in business, however the service is a Coach USA/Eastern Shuttle operation – in terms of the Dragon Bus turnover, not sure when it is supposed to happen, they originally said February when I first heard of the brand turnover in November, but numerous delays with operating rights and interlining of schedules and ticket purchasing collection methods have pushed it back, in addition to the continued integration of the Eastern fleet, which right now is basically a collection of MCI’s from numerous operations such as Megabus (the D4505s that were formerly of the Philly and DC services), Eastern (the J4500s) and a few from the other Coach properties (Olympia, Suburban and Community have all contributed) – eventually, the DragonBus brand will feature all D4505’s – but when that will be is still to be determined… |
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Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 23:21:13 2009, in response to Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 23:19:15 2009. 1.Wait, 3 Pike Street? Where in the world is that? They don't board from Manhattan bridge anymore....?The stop location in Manhattan for Eastern is located off the intersection on Pike and Allen, a few steps away from East Broadway – probably the closest subway station would be the East Broadway (F) stop, here’s a map: http://www.easternshuttle.com/busstations.html 2. Let's switch this around. I took "Eastern" last Sunday. The old office on 11th Street was closed, with nothing really directing anyone to the new location. Fortunately, I knew where the buses were parking recently (for Apex/Cherry) and went by there, where I saw people waiting for a bus that just didn't show up. There were major problems with the Broad Street Marathon going on, and buses were stuck in it. Granted, I knew about the take-over...I guess Cherry/Today's Travel is gone now, along with that Neoplan I never got to ride. Coach USA is using it's ex-Suburban MCIs or the Eastern Branded J/D4500/05 coaches for "Chinabus" service, and also happened to eliminate the Sunday 9AM run I used to take to New York. The stop location is 1021 Arch Street, (located right behind the pull-in location of the Greyhound Bus Terminal), otherwise known as Arch btwn. 10th and 11th – if we are talking about the same location, then this is the first I am hearing about the station being closed down – I know that the facility itself is very much run down with just fold down seats, and I have been there on numerous occasions in the past month, but I didn’t know it closed – they may be renovating it…. 3. The 10 AM bus that I managed to board and ride out of town, which was Eastern branded, got into New York a different way than Today used to take it. Somehow, after coming out of the tunnel, we ended up at 36th and 8th Ave, and the driver (operator?) let us off at Penn Station, which I was more than happy about. That might have been a GO because some of those runs are interlined to go back as an M21 to Washington in terms of fleet utilization and operations – the line is supposed to use 3 Pike as the NY terminal. 4. Now that the schedule is different and dragonbus isn't online yet, where can I find the current schedule information? Is Eastern the "working name" for Today's Travel until Dragonbus comes into effect? Whatever happened to Apex? Is that also now an "Eastern" service until Coach USA runs it? I thought Coach USA wasn't inheriting equipment with this merger...are they apt to replace everything with the same damn MCIs? There are numerous ways to get the schedule, best way is probably to go the Megabus website, search “New York-Philadelphia” and click on the June 10th schedules – that is probably the way to go, as the schedule change is coming up – in the interim, check either the Today’s Bus or Eastern Shuttle websites (they both have the same info) – they list the departures per day – Apex is an umbrella company for numerous Chinatown operators, sort of like a cooperative and they are the platform selling the tickets and branding the services, they are still in business, however the service is a Coach USA/Eastern Shuttle operation – in terms of the Dragon Bus turnover, not sure when it is supposed to happen, they originally said February when I first heard of the brand turnover in November, but numerous delays with operating rights and interlining of schedules and ticket purchasing collection methods have pushed it back, in addition to the continued integration of the Eastern fleet, which right now is basically a collection of MCI’s from numerous operations such as Megabus (the D4505s that were formerly of the Philly and DC services), Eastern (the J4500s) and a few from the other Coach properties (Olympia, Suburban and Community have all contributed) – eventually, the DragonBus brand will feature all D4505’s – but when that will be is still to be determined… |
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Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 23:30:34 2009, in response to Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 23:21:13 2009. Most of the EL(W)3s may now be gone with the seconding of D4505s to Eastern. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 23:36:11 2009, in response to Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 23:30:34 2009. Probably - if I do see anything on my way back up the Turnpike (usually I will hit the 2-2:30PM departures out of NY) tomorrow, I will let you know... |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat May 9 08:19:45 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu May 7 15:33:34 2009. I remember seeing news coverage of the first day out of Albany with TD925's, plus there is a Flickr stream somewhere of a DD at Rensselaer.The idea of extending the M27 north to Montreal (perhaps with intermediary stops in Saratoga Springs, Plattsburgh, and maybe Glens Falls) is beyond logical. |
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Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 9 09:36:30 2009, in response to Re: Phill's MegaBus Info Needed., posted by Scrabbleship on Sat May 9 08:19:45 2009. However...most of the runs I have seen to Albany have been done with MCIs (50447 and 51302, the latter now under Eastern Shuttle) were common. |
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Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat May 9 22:54:58 2009, in response to Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 7 23:30:34 2009. Adam, are the Eastern coaches that have just the red "Eastern" name with the flag and phone number over white w/o any of the Coach USA stripes or markings J4500s or EL3's? I spotted two of them traveling south on the turnpike yesterday... |
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Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat May 9 23:04:54 2009, in response to Re: Philly's Chinabus Info Needed., posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat May 9 22:54:58 2009. Those should be J4500s, and were inherited. |
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