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MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009

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My brother just called me to inform me that this years Bus Rodeo has now been officially cancelled. Sorry for the Bad news

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by QM18Express on Tue May 5 15:11:02 2009, in response to MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009.

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Thanks for getting the word out! This really sucks.

However, does anybody know any upcoming Bus Rodeos that is coming soon (SEPTA, NJT, CTTransit, ETC)?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by mci guy on Tue May 5 15:15:24 2009, in response to MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009.

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i thought it would be as subways cancelled. since i retired ive been to several. hopefully bus festival will occur in sept as usual. so robert your brother is on si now.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 15:17:46 2009, in response to MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009.

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Oh boy this could be the end of the museum buses ! I hope they don't get scrapped.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 5 15:25:03 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 15:17:46 2009.

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It's premature to worry about that. Think about all the previous financial crises they survived. Admittedly some were still in service in the mid-to-late 70s, but others, including #100, were already OOS by then, and they lived.

Relax, for now.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:27:08 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by mci guy on Tue May 5 15:15:24 2009.

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Yep, SI Road control Stuppertendent. I think he might be going back to Command Center since 2 Supt. from there are retiring soon.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:28:44 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 5 15:25:03 2009.

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I would not worry about them to much, since it does not cost much to just have them sit around the depots.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue May 5 15:44:17 2009, in response to MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009.

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I predicted that this was going to happen on NYCTF! I want free Metro North tickets lol.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue May 5 15:46:33 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by QM18Express on Tue May 5 15:11:02 2009.

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IIRC Long lsland bus has a roadeo, I heard its held out in jones beach somewere.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 15:53:57 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:28:44 2009.

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This could be the excuse they may be looking for. There are costs involved with keeping them running and don't forget insurance and parts, detailing . Even tires must be changed do to age not miles. We will see if they are back this holiday season on the streets. Other TA's have scrapped vintage buses.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 5 16:09:54 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 15:17:46 2009.

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Oh boy this could be the end of the museum buses ! I hope they don't get scrapped.

Since they just poured money into refurbishing them for holiday specials in the past couple of years, I think "TA junks restored vintage buses" would be a really embarrassing headline for what would be a negligible cost savings.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 16:59:58 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 5 16:09:54 2009.

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When it comes to the MTA anything is possible. Do they do anything that makes sense ?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 17:26:02 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 16:59:58 2009.

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I have check book in hand if they think of getting rid of those buses, i would do my best to keep them out of the scrap yard

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 17:31:51 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 17:26:02 2009.

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Yeah that would be tragic. I know it was posted here that Houston did scrap vintage buses not long ago.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by 33rd Street on Tue May 5 19:16:07 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 15:53:57 2009.

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The TA won't be foolish to scrap any museum buses. They realize that having vintage equipment, has plenty of benefits.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue May 5 19:19:43 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 17:26:02 2009.

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I have check book in hand if they think of getting rid of those buses, i would do my best to keep them out of the scrap yard

Be careful, the TA is hard up for money. The price could max out your check book.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by GMCman35 on Tue May 5 19:30:18 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by mci guy on Tue May 5 15:15:24 2009.

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And this years NYC Transit Bus Roadeo has been canceled due to the MTA budget and layoffs?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by mci guy on Tue May 5 20:00:35 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by GMCman35 on Tue May 5 19:30:18 2009.

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bedause of their financial woes.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 20:00:41 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue May 5 19:19:43 2009.

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i will do my best



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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue May 5 20:28:01 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue May 5 15:46:33 2009.

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I would expect that to be cancelled too.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue May 5 20:29:59 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by GMCman35 on Tue May 5 19:30:18 2009.

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Good assumption. On the subway side, the cancelled it without explanation. I would assume it was handled the same way in DOB.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 5 20:40:17 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by GMCman35 on Tue May 5 19:30:18 2009.

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Last year, there was no separate roadeo; I would imagine that the NYCT roadeo is also toast because of lack of funds.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 20:57:00 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 5 20:40:17 2009.

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This is what I mean NYCTA rodeo.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 5 21:09:22 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 20:57:00 2009.

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Good thing I went last year!
It was the first one I went to in 12 years!

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:16:14 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 16:59:58 2009.

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Yes, they do a lot that makes sense. And not scrapping the vintage bus fleet makes a lot of sense. Believe me, if NYCT even hinted at anything like scrapping the vintage bus fleet, many, many, many, people would show up with suitcases full of money willing to pay beyond market value for those gems.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:17:17 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 17:26:02 2009.

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haha, I just said that in my post and I hadn't even read yours yet (yes, I violated my rule of not posting until reading the whole thread).

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:17:58 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue May 5 19:19:43 2009.

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Hell, I hate buses and I'd chip in to save the vintage bus fleet. Those things pwn.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by TCC Senior Man on Tue May 5 21:29:24 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue May 5 20:28:01 2009.

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Last year's Long Island Bus Roadeo was the last one. Long Island Bus was to be included in this years New York City Bus Roadeo before it was cancelled. My understanding was that Suffolk County Transit was also to partake in it as well but that's not going to happen either.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 5 21:40:21 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:16:14 2009.

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Believe me, if NYCT even hinted at anything like scrapping the vintage bus fleet, many, many, many, people would show up with suitcases full of money willing to pay beyond market value for those gems.

Somehow I doubt that. More than likely, a lot of people would be upset about it but Nimco would still come out the high bidder on all but about two of them.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Mac5689 on Tue May 5 21:44:33 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by TCC Senior Man on Tue May 5 21:29:24 2009.

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from what i understand Suffolk Transit sends one or two drivers to LIB's rodeo (thats where they drive the buses in simulated situations or what not), so i'm sure if the MTA where having theirs i'm sure Suffolk would have sent a few drivers since LIB is now apart of the MTA.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:48:03 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 5 21:40:21 2009.

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Seriously? How much would Nimco pay for them?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by fishbowls4ever on Tue May 5 21:48:41 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue May 5 21:40:21 2009.

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Dont doubt it, i dont think Nimco is going to pay over the price of what they feel a scrap bus is worth. Plus there are some people here that have serious bucks.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 5 21:51:12 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:48:03 2009.

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It's not how much Nimco would pay; it's what any scrapyard would pay. Of late, the MTA has been using bids for auctioning retired buses.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 22:03:03 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 5 21:51:12 2009.

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I know that. I'm asking how much they would pay.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 23:35:02 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue May 5 21:09:22 2009.

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I went to 2 in my time and came in last place in my depot the first year and next to last my second years. MY last 2 years in title I was disqualified do to things that happen to me.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by RTS_book on Tue May 5 23:58:38 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 22:03:03 2009.

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Call 'em and ask.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed May 6 00:01:21 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 23:35:02 2009.

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I never had a chance to participate because I made dispatcher in three years. I just go to see the buses and get the freebies!

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 00:06:37 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by RTS_book on Tue May 5 23:58:38 2009.

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Why would they tell me if it is an auction and they'd want to win?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:06:45 2009, in response to MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 5 15:02:28 2009.

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Hate to say this but it's really no biggie. I wasn't going to attend it this year anyways. I know there are vintage buses there and all but there's nothing there that I never saw before. Hopefully, they will still have the Bus Festival at the Atlantic Ave Antic in the early Fall.
And I believe all of the Bus Roadeos across the country are getting cancelled this year as well.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 00:08:24 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:06:45 2009.

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Actually it really is a biggie to a lot of people and all those people matter a lot more than you do. And a lot of those people for which it really is a biggie are hard-working MTA employees.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:29:53 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 00:08:24 2009.

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It's a biggie for you but not for me.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 00:33:50 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:29:53 2009.

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I thought I was pretty clear in my post. Maybe I wasn't. Lemme repeat it, this time adding some bold...

Actually it really is a biggie to a lot of people and all those people matter a lot more than you do. And a lot of those people for which it really is a biggie are hard-working MTA employees.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:45:39 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 00:33:50 2009.

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I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. HOW'S THAT?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed May 6 00:59:57 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by 33rd Street on Tue May 5 19:16:07 2009.

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They really need to get a lot and store all the museum buses in one location. I say maybe they could refurbish one of the abandoned aircraft hangers at Floyd Bennet Field and use that.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 05:45:21 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:45:39 2009.

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Where in my post did I say anything about what I think?

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 05:45:51 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed May 6 00:59:57 2009.

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Why? What would be the point of that???

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed May 6 06:10:54 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 6 05:45:51 2009.

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Why? What would be the point of that???

They wouldn't be taking up space and resources in active depots, and it's possible that the space could be open to the public.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed May 6 06:13:08 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed May 6 00:29:53 2009.

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It's a biggie for you but not for me.

It's a biggie for anyone who had hoped to compete in the national APTA Roadeo. The Roadeo really has little to do with vintage buses.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by BMTLines on Wed May 6 08:31:51 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by busdude2 on Tue May 5 16:59:58 2009.

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AFAIAC those buses belong in a museum that is open to the public. Bringing them out once or twice a year just doesn't cut it. The MTA should sell or donate them to transportation museums around the country that actually open their collections to the public.

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Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 6 09:31:33 2009, in response to Re: MTA Bus Rodeo Cancelled, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 5 21:17:58 2009.

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I agree. I don't like riding local buses at all. Name an aspect of the local bus experience, and I don't like it (the other pax, the stops and starts, the fact that I can walk faster, etc, etc, etc).

But I can still remember being 3 feet tall and the streets were full of green and blue Fishbowls and Flxs. Since my dad worked long hours and my mom didn't drive, I was on them a lot. Those vintage buses sure bring back lotsa memories for me.

The worst that will happen is that they get little to no TLC for the next few years, but considering how long they have survived, I'm not worried (at this point) about them being scrapped.

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