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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 6 18:27:55 2009, in response to pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Jan 5 17:32:08 2009.

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Curious: what time did it actually leave the lot? I ask because I shot it today in the lot, but didn't stick around to see it leave while I unsuccessfully sought a window-side shot of 6020 (I had shot 6020 over the summer in Staten Island).

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jan 6 20:01:30 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 12:56:53 2009.

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The LFSA has a rear end that only a mother could love.

While I prefer the D62LFA or DE62LFA over anything else, I agree:

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jan 6 20:10:12 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by RTS_Book on Tue Jan 6 13:49:35 2009.

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Although Chicago later covered the rear window with an A/C unit.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 6 20:44:55 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by rionOne on Tue Jan 6 01:49:05 2009.

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If you aren't interested in sharing the information with this board, what is the point in advertising that you are going to post it somewhere else?

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jan 6 20:45:50 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 6 20:44:55 2009.

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Ego?

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 6 20:47:56 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by rionOne on Tue Jan 6 01:49:05 2009.

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I'm looking forward to it---I'm not too thrilled with the shot I did get of it today...it's passable, but I do want to get a shot of it in service.

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 20:59:00 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jan 6 17:32:37 2009.

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1575 and 1576 are NJT buses, 1028(?) through 1035 are Acadummy buses and all of them sound like they're on the verge of dying. The D60LFs and LFSes are of course owned by Acadummy.

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 6 21:01:58 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 20:59:00 2009.

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1026-1035 and 1575-1576 are state buses.

The RTSs owned by Academy are 1049-1058.

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by Ken S. on Tue Jan 6 21:04:11 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 12:48:14 2009.

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They should lose the state Novas altogether.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by rionOne on Tue Jan 6 21:05:15 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 6 20:44:55 2009.

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So that other can go to the other board and view, Super College Idiot.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 6 21:29:56 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by rionOne on Tue Jan 6 21:05:15 2009.

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If you are going to direct traffic elsewhere (for a reason you have yet to explain), why not just post here so those of us following the discussion can continue doing so?

You BS pretty well for someone without one.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Tue Jan 6 21:36:51 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jan 6 20:01:30 2009.

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Cool photos.

Speaking of which, how many different kinds of artics does the Valley Metro currently operate?

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jan 6 21:58:25 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 6 21:01:58 2009.

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Also,I saw a few 30-foot transit buses out in Hoboken, 5 to be exact, all white backed with Academy letters in blue, are they assigned to Rutgers detail as well, or do they operate on the Newark Airport contract?

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by rionOne on Tue Jan 6 22:18:50 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jan 6 21:29:56 2009.

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Yeah Yeah Yeah....Just want it all hand fed.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by r17-6599 on Tue Jan 6 22:59:20 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jan 6 18:27:55 2009.

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It was about 11:15 or 11:30 yesterday.
ps: in all my years of posting to this board I have never seen one of my posts generate such interest and/or controversy. Ugly bus, nice looing bus, 3 doors vs. 2 doors, etc, etc. I can't read 'em all.
Wow!!!
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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jan 6 23:08:19 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Jan 6 22:59:20 2009.

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Imo, all artics from now on should be 3 doors rather than 2.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 6 23:20:37 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by r17-6599 on Tue Jan 6 22:59:20 2009.

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They should have ten doors and no seats.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jan 7 07:59:42 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Jan 5 21:21:42 2009.

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What application are you referring to? In Select Bus Service or BRT applications, 3 doors would be perfect.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jan 7 08:00:37 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jan 5 22:50:30 2009.

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However...in the application in which the MTA will need most of these artics, 3 doors works best; the application is BRT services.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jan 7 08:26:39 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jan 6 12:54:18 2009.

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Orion and NovaBus > New Flyer.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Wed Jan 7 08:41:39 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 6 23:20:37 2009.

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LOL!!

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 7 09:29:52 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 6 23:20:37 2009.

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IAWTP (but not all of the buses in the order, only some of them, and they should have at least 7 seats).

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jan 7 09:50:48 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by metrolinecoach111 on Tue Jan 6 21:58:25 2009.

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There are no baby Novas in the Rutgers fleet.

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jan 7 09:52:14 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 12:48:14 2009.

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1575 and 76 finally received Rutgers colors and logos this past semester, though it's a little different from the other Novas. Not sure if it means they'll be sticking around for a while, but I can't imagine them painting them only to ditch them a short while later.

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jan 7 09:54:41 2009, in response to For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by WillD on Tue Jan 6 11:18:54 2009.

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On exam days, you can see some pretty weird sights; I saw on artic on the F this past December and I once saw an artic on the LX... things you NEVER see otherwise!

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jan 7 09:57:05 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jan 7 09:54:41 2009.

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That's actually really funny.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Phxtusbusfan on Wed Jan 7 10:59:25 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Tue Jan 6 21:36:51 2009.

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20 2004 New Flyer D60LF (8001 - 8020)
10 2006 NABI 60BRT (8501 - 8510) (Cng)
30 2007 New Flyer D60LF (8021 - 8050)
20 2008 New Flyer D60LF (8051- 8070)
10 2008 New Flyer D62LFA (8511 - 8520)

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Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Jan 7 11:25:31 2009, in response to Re: For Rutgers? (was:Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today), posted by JohnnyMints on Wed Jan 7 09:52:14 2009.

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That wouldn't preclude anything; some NJT-owned Nova Bs have already received 4 different liveries (such as #1215---L&G, Coach USA-stripe, Coach USA-UK Bus, and now NJ Transit/Academy)

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by JAzumah on Wed Jan 7 11:36:30 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 6 23:20:37 2009.

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That is called a mobile lounge. They have a few nice ones at JFK.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Wed Jan 7 12:13:07 2009, in response to pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Jan 5 17:32:08 2009.

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Nice pics!! I like the fact that NYCT is trying out different models of buses. Only if they can try out different color schemes on the buses as well......

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Wed Jan 7 12:13:34 2009, in response to pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Jan 5 17:32:08 2009.

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Nice pics!! I like the fact that NYCT is trying out different models of buses. It would be nice if they can try out different color schemes on the buses as well......

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 12:29:21 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Jan 5 21:26:50 2009.

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The Vanhool demo had offical plates as well when it was here. But with the MTA anything of the sort is possible.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 12:43:08 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jan 7 08:26:39 2009.

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I'm sorry not ever! In terms of even Low Floor buses New Flyer gets it hands down. That new one I will pass on, but this LFS Artic will never look better than a New Flyer HF or LF (Regular and LF-R) But this is the future and we need artics bottom line. Uggghhhh... Someone please get us some damn it New Flyers! LOLOL.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jan 7 14:10:08 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 12:43:08 2009.

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New Flyer = Trash Can

Orion and NovaBus = Great buses.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed Jan 7 14:23:29 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Mon Jan 5 17:52:54 2009.

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wait a Minute it does not look better the the New Flyer

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by RTS_Book on Wed Jan 7 14:26:19 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed Jan 7 14:23:29 2009.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And in this beholder, yes; yes it does.

LFX? That's a different story.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by caine515 on Wed Jan 7 15:08:04 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jan 6 12:54:18 2009.

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The artics are running in canada with no problems. I wonder how much complaints will come up on the board when Orion decides to make a articualted bus.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Wed Jan 7 15:32:31 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Phxtusbusfan on Wed Jan 7 10:59:25 2009.

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Thanks.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jan 7 15:44:26 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jan 6 00:13:57 2009.

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Now that's a bus.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 16:20:09 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Jan 7 14:10:08 2009.

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In your world yes! In the real world, Maybe. Again it has to do with Specifications, ok How the customer wants the bus to be built. For any bus to last in New York City it has to be a strong and well built one or you can forget it. New Flyer did and excellent job with the D60HF's that we have and they are holding up very well. Orion's here in this city to me suck but I have been to other places both here and in Canada and I love them! and the same goes for NovaBus. You may not like the New Flyers and that is your opinion, remember Opinions are like A$$ H0L3$ everybody's got one.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 16:28:59 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jan 7 15:44:26 2009.

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Exactly! That is indeed a Bus! :o)

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 14:38:54 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by danny at 103rd street on Wed Jan 7 14:23:29 2009.

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Yes it does. The D60HF looks like a generic bus.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 14:40:29 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by TC40102A#9167 on Wed Jan 7 16:20:09 2009.

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Then how come the D60HF's feel loose? Explain that to me.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jan 8 14:47:05 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 14:40:29 2009.

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So you're basing the quality of an entire manufacturer's product on the continued purchase of the same model by ONE TA? That's like saying Orions are excellent buses, having only ridden the O7NG...

New Flyers are decently built buses, the D60HF is not a bad bus, maybe NYCT's aren't so great, but I've been on many that have better ride quality and are better maintained/spec'd than NYCT's...

Orions are OK, ours I can't really stand because I happen not to like their ride quality, but WMATA's and many I've ridden in California and Ontario seem far better in comparison...

Same goes for any manufacturer's models...

Bottom line, get around and see everyone else's products before you come to these conclusions...it will enrich and entertain.


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What The Doctor Ordered...

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jan 8 15:35:36 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jan 8 14:47:05 2009.

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Agreed. O5's are great [esepcially the diesel ones], certain O7's are good [hybrids I like, the CNG version is terrible].
New Flyer overall it pretty good, I like the artics and the C40LF.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jan 8 15:59:24 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Jan 8 14:47:05 2009.

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NYCT's C40LF are good buses.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 16:10:11 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jan 8 15:59:24 2009.

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The Orion VII CNG's are better.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jan 8 16:36:28 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 16:10:11 2009.

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False.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 17:09:20 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jan 8 16:36:28 2009.

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True.

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Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Jan 8 18:37:10 2009, in response to Re: pics: 0054 Nova Artic today, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 8 16:10:11 2009.

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Nope. They suck.

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