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Re: Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 18:53:21 2005, in response to Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering, posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 18:51:38 2005. From Transitalk.info's Rosters (MTA Bus included):1981-82 GMC Model T8W-204 "RTS-04" #7000-7049 (9 In Service) Notes: All of these buses were in-house remanufactured by the MTA Department of Buses between 1996 and 1998 as part of a program to see if they could reduce the cost of purchasing new buses against rebuilding older buses. 1985 GMC Model T8J-204 "RTS-04" #3800-4218 (1 In Service) 1987-88 TMC Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #4600-4899 (26 In Service) Notes:These buses are a hybrid of sorts, built in part by GMC and then by TMC. #4873-4888 feature American Seating Model 6566 Suburban Seats, some are upholstered while others use a vinyl material. #4854-4859 and 4889-4899 feature 2x2 style seating arrangements. 1990-91 TMC Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #8000-8396, 8400 (302 In Service) Notes: #8400 is now operated by the New York Police Department and has been renumbered to #9598. A good portion of this fleet has had its Detroit Diesel 6V92TA DDEC engines replaced with new Detroit Diesel Series 50 EGR engines. 1993 BIA Orion 05.501 #101-316 (216 In Service) Notes: #101-145 and 147-172 feature American Seating Model 2005 High-back Recliner Seats with raised platforms. #146 have been re-seated with American Seating Model 6468 "Standard" Transit Seats but have retained thier raised platforms. All buses have had its orignal engines replaced with new Detroit Diesel Series 50 EGR engines. #295-297 and 299-300 were originally delivered with Cummins C8.3, while #290-294 were delivered with Detroit Diesel Series 50 engines. The Cummins powered units have also be repowered with Detroit Diesel Series 50 EGR engines. 1993 TMC Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #8401-8564 (164 In Service) Notes: All buses have had its Detroit Diesel 6V92TA DDEC engines replaced with new Detroit Diesel Series 50 EGR engines. 1994 BIA Orion 05.501 #317, 400-401 (2 In Service) Notes: #317 is Compressed Natural Gas powered. 1994 TMC Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #8565-8566, 8600-8703, 9700-9795 (202 In Service) Notes: #8565-8566 were the first two RTS buses delivered with DDC Series 50 Engines. All but #8565-8566 feature the Luminator "SMART" Lighting system. #9700-9795 are Ex-Queens Surface buses. #9745-9795 feature American Seating Model 6468 Transit Seats with padded upholstery inserts. 1995 OBI Orion 05.501 #402-630 (197 In Service) Notes: #581-630 are Compressed Natural Gas powered. #611-630 feature American Seating Model 2005 High-back Recliner Seats with raised platforms. 1995 NovaBUS Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #8750-8751 (2 In Service) 1996 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #1000-1001 (2 In Service) 1996 OBI Orion 05.501 #631-680 (50 In Service) 1996-97 NovaBUS Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #8752-9349 (597 In Service) Note: #9140-9149 feature Cummins M-11E CELECT engines while the rest of the fleet is powered by Detroit Diesel's Series 50 DDEC engine. #9260-9272 and 9274-9349 feature American Seating Model 2005 High-back Recliner Seats with raised platforms. #9250-9259 and 9273 have been re-seated with American Seating Model 6468 "Standard" Transit Seats but have retained thier raised platforms. 1997 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #1002-1069 (68 In Service) 1997-98 NovaBUS Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #4901, 9350-9655, 9657-9699 (350 In Service) Notes: #4901, 9350 and 9352-9524 feature American Seating Model 6468 Transit Seats with Cut Resistant (CR-50TM) upholstery inserts while the rest of the fleet have Fiberglass inserts. These are the first buses in the MTA fleet to feature the new Transmatic L-20 Lighting system. 1998 New Flyer C40LF Low Floor CNG #801 (1 In Service) 1998 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #1070-1109 (40 In Service) 1998 OBI Orion 05.501 #6000, 8568-8581, 9932-9999 (83 In Service) Notes: #8568-8581 and 9932-9999 feature American Seating Model 6566 Suburban Seats and are Compressed Natural Gas Powered. 1999 New Flyer D45SHF ITV #996-998 (3 In Service) Notes: Originally Houston METRO #4804-4806. 1999 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #5250-5251 (2 In Service) Notes: Originally #1110-1111. 1999 OBI Orion 05.501 #6001-6349, 9827-9899, 9901-9931 (349 In Service) Notes: #9827-9899 and 9901-9931 are Compressed Natural Gas Powered. #9835 and 9868 feature John Deer Model 6081 CNG Engines. 1999 NovaBUS Model T80-206 "RTS-06" #4900, 4902-5249, 9656 (350 In Service) Notes: #5075-5124 feature ZF ECOMAT Transmissions while the rest of the fleet feature Allison V ATEC Transmissions. Also some of the fleet features Twin Vision LED Flip-dot signs while the rest of the fleet features Luminator LED Flip-dot signs. 1999-2000 New Flyer C40LF Low Floor CNG #800, 802-989 (189 In Service) 2000 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #5253-5509 (257 In Service) Notes: #5407 has been totally remanufactured to resemble and to act as a demonstrator for the 2002-03 D60HF order. Also some of the buses in this order have received replacement Luminator Horizon All-LED destination signs. 2001 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #5252 (1 In Service) 2002 OBI Orion 07.501 CNG #7560 (1 In Service) 2002 OBI Orion 07.501 Hybrid #6365 (1 In Service) 2002-03 New Flyer D60HF Articulated #5510-5769 (260 In Service) Notes: #5635 and 5670-5769 feature Luminator Horizon All-LED Destination signs. 2003-04 OBI Orion 07.501 CNG #7561-7819 (259 In Service) Notes: #7685-7819 feature ZF ECOMAT Transmissions while the rest of the fleet uses Allison B WTEC Transmissions. #7685-7819 also feature Luminator Horizon All-LED destination signs. 2004-05 OBI Orion 07.501 Hybrid #6366-6689 (163 In Service) Notes: #6490-6689 feature Luminator Horizon All-LED destination signs. |
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quick update: Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 18:56:18 2005, in response to Re: Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 18:53:21 2005. Part of this is out of date.There are no more pre-1990 RTSes in service. The unrepowered (6v92 engine powered) 8000 series RTSes have all been repowered to DD50 engines with the exception of a few (which are being scrapped, sent to storage). |
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Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 19:31:11 2005, in response to Re: Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 18:53:21 2005. It was around midday. The Route Designator was a PAPER. I guess - the electronic indicator of 317 was not prepared to indicate B9. |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 19:58:22 2005, in response to Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 19:31:11 2005. Is the B9 a Gleason route? |
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2000 New Flyer D60HF Articulated 52**-54** |
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Posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 20:00:05 2005, in response to Re: Do you have any clue ... to MTA-NYC transit Bus numbering, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 18:53:21 2005. I saw alraedy on December 5, 1999 in BRONX. (Already in 1999)And On January 8, 2000 on Atalntic Avenue (as a substitue for A train) - the only time & saw Artics in Brooklyn. By the way, why there no artics in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island? |
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What is Gleason Route? |
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Posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 20:01:07 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 19:58:22 2005. B9 is served by Sunset Park Depot. |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 6 20:09:15 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 19:58:22 2005. Yes. |
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Re: What is Gleason Route? |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 6 20:09:27 2005, in response to What is Gleason Route?, posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 20:01:07 2005. a.k.a. Jackie Gleason Depot |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 20:39:30 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 6 20:09:15 2005. He must have seen an Orion V CNG, like this one: I doubt the number could have been 317. |
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Re: What is Gleason Route? |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 20:40:28 2005, in response to Re: What is Gleason Route?, posted by Dr. Casca on Sat Aug 6 20:09:27 2005. Good to know what Jackie Gleason Depot used to be called... |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by DowntownMedic on Sat Aug 6 22:08:15 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 20:39:30 2005. 317 was the prototype for the larger Orion V CNG order a year later...it is still in service to the best of my knowledge... |
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Re: What is Gleason Route? |
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Posted by David on Sat Aug 6 22:12:39 2005, in response to Re: What is Gleason Route?, posted by mr_brian on Sat Aug 6 20:40:28 2005. Its previous name was Fifth Avenue Depot, not Sunset Park Depot. NYCT and its predecessors never had a depot called "Sunset Park Depot."David |
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Re: 2000 New Flyer D60HF Articulated 52**-54** |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 22:36:51 2005, in response to 2000 New Flyer D60HF Articulated 52**-54**, posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 20:00:05 2005. I can't answer for Brooklyn and Queens, but I believe the drivers at the two Staten Island depots did not want NFI D60HFs.They seem to like the Orion 5s and RTSes (as well as the express MCI coaches) |
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Looking on some Brooklyn Road.. |
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Posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 22:41:55 2005, in response to Re: 2000 New Flyer D60HF Articulated 52**-54**, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 22:36:51 2005. ... I guess that Artics are the lasts thing - To make them Totaly unbearable.Yet, the artics are the excellent solution for such problems as ever-crowded B36. However B36 makes turns, especially around Sheepshead Bay station. In Manhattan artics run along "straing lines" such as M23, M79, etc. I've never seen Artics turning from 23rd to Broadway. It would be Impossible. |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Sat Aug 6 23:03:11 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by DowntownMedic on Sat Aug 6 22:08:15 2005. Yes 317 is still in service |
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Re: Looking on some Brooklyn Road.. |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Aug 6 23:07:02 2005, in response to Looking on some Brooklyn Road.., posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 22:41:55 2005. Actually, it wouldn't be impossible.Artics can make some pretty tight turns, you just need a good operator. Case in point, the M15 stop at the ferry when it turns onto Whitehall Street. 
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Re: Looking on some Brooklyn Road.. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 7 00:17:25 2005, in response to Looking on some Brooklyn Road.., posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 22:41:55 2005. Artics cause more problems than they solve. I can now walk faster than the M79 depending upon where I am going.Also, artics have a smaller turning radius than standard buses. |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 8 09:51:13 2005, in response to Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by tramrunner on Sat Aug 6 19:31:11 2005. The Route Designator was a PAPER. I guess - the electronic indicator of 317 was not prepared to indicate B9.All NYCT buses carry codes for all routes. Most likely, the sign was broken. |
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Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005 |
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Posted by bus317 on Mon Aug 8 19:45:15 2005, in response to Re: Orion V 317 --- I saw on B9, on January 3, 2005, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 8 09:51:13 2005. Bus 317 is out of service for the summer. Look for it when school opens. |
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