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Posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 8 15:48:14 2008 6223,6225 and 6228 now at yukon. 9411 latest GOH. appears yukon left with 9400-9416 and 9418-9429. the rest at ulmer park. seems 3802-3829 NG orions in service. doesnt seem to have been any recent deliveries. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 8 16:20:41 2008, in response to yukon/castleton updates, posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 8 15:48:14 2008. Apparently they are up to 3840. MTA_SI can check in and verify that statement. |
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Posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 8 16:20:41 2008. up to 3842 is all on property bus as of now only up to 3232 are in service. Also 3 are of service for major repairs and 1 has been sent to Secaucus for major body work as it was invloved in a serious accident. Also 2240 MCI is @ Yukon only for service as bus is not allowed in service a rework is being retrofitted on the rear of the bus. It looks terrible right now but hey we need these buses now. Also Yukon 300's will be gone by weeks end only a few are left as of now. On the Novas by system pick time they will all be gone.SI Buses Will Be: Per G.M. & Union - 09' 3800-3874 @ Castleton 75 6120-6220 @ Castleton 100 4000-4059 @ Castleton - Mid 09' 3875-3924 @ Yukon - 50 6250-6349 @ Yukon - 100 (Pending 2009/2010) |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Oct 8 19:32:25 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Guess most of the NOVABUS will be sent to Ulmer Park. Anybody got any idea as to what Ulmer Park will lose(besides the 9300's) ?Q37-#112-Orion V |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Oct 8 20:21:53 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Thanks for the update! I was wondering what was going on here.It seems that the SI Roster will be fairly solid when all is said and done. All they have to do now is make the buses run on-time (particularly Yukon's buses) and things will be all good again. *And since June, no one ever figured out the mystery engine/transmission that's still in #6046! |
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Posted by MCI D4000 81994 on Wed Oct 8 20:56:35 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Where's 6221-6249 going? Some of them have found their way to Yukon already. |
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Posted by RiverLINE3501 on Wed Oct 8 21:06:55 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Aren't there some 6200's in the other boros like Manhattan, Queens and Bronx? |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Oct 8 21:22:03 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by RiverLINE3501 on Wed Oct 8 21:06:55 2008. Staten Island absorbed about 90% of them sometime between Sept of 2007 and March 2008. The only other depot outside of Castleton and Yukon to have 1999 O5s is Kingsbridge. |
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Posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 21:50:35 2008, in response to yukon/castleton updates, posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 8 15:48:14 2008. Many remaining 6200's & some misc. 6000 & 6100's will mainly be heading into Manhattan. I do know with the next 18 months the only boroughs to have RTS will be Queens & Brooklyn, as Quill & 126 will both be offset with Orion's. But I also have heard relaible sources that the 99 RTS's will be retired at the end of their 12 year cycle as the mta is not having a more expensive time obtaining parts for these units. |
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Posted by caine515 on Wed Oct 8 22:39:51 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 21:50:35 2008. I think it's because that the RTS isn't made anymore and parts are hard to come by. Couldn't the MTA get parts from other states that have retired or are retiring the RTS bus? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 8 22:48:37 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by caine515 on Wed Oct 8 22:39:51 2008. The parts are still made by an OEM (Volvo aka Prevost), but not in the volume that allows the prices that the MTA was getting before. However, if the MTA does not immediately move to procuring all buses using 80% federal funds while they can, they will be forced to run those buses an extra 4-5 years. |
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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Oct 8 23:40:09 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Interesting. I am wondering who will get 3925-3999? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 23:55:08 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed Oct 8 21:22:03 2008. Gun Hill also has a number of them, mostly in the high 6000s and low 6100s, and also 6151 and 6280 (IINM, KB may have 6284 and 6296, but I'm not sure). |
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Posted by QM18Express on Wed Oct 8 23:56:30 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 23:55:08 2008. KB does have 6296 as I rode it last night on the BX13 |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 9 00:13:33 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by QM18Express on Wed Oct 8 23:40:09 2008. I've heard either Quill, Jamaica, Queens Village, Flatbush, Stengel, Gun Hill, Kingsbridge, Manhattanville, or 126 Street. The goal is to make all depots have Hybrid Electric buses for the exception of 100 Street which has all D60HFs. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 9 00:15:10 2008, in response to yukon/castleton updates, posted by mci guy on Wed Oct 8 15:48:14 2008. Perhaps 6221-6249 will be Quill bound? |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 9 00:36:45 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 21:50:35 2008. But I also have heard relaible sources that the 99 RTS's will be retired at the end of their 12 year cycle as the mta is not having a more expensive time obtaining parts for these units.I'm little skeptical on that, it is unusual on the present time for MTA to retire buses at 12. RTS buses is already surpasses 12 years. They already have a surplus of parts from retired buses. But MCI and Nova still produce parts for RTS buses probably 2012 or so. Yet MTA starting to replacing green Twinvision replacing with Orange LEDs on that particular group of RTS buses. This is some proof that they going to be service well past by 12th year mark. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Oct 9 01:14:30 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 9 00:13:33 2008. For come reason, I see Quill getting them after Yukon and Castleton get their's. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Oct 9 01:17:09 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 21:50:35 2008. But I also have heard relaible sources that the 99 RTS's will be retired at the end of their 12 year cycle as the mta is not having a more expensive time obtaining parts for these units.If this is true, then why are the 1993/1994/1996 RTS buses still running? Besides, the RTS could run for another 10-12 years. When they are kept in good condition, they could run like a beast. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 09:10:16 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 9 00:36:45 2008. I hope your right about the nova RTS in service past the 12 year mark. |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 9 09:49:24 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. thanks a lot for the update. do you have any idea of the new mci assignment for yukon/castleton. glad to hear they have found a fix for the problem. 2252-2335 should be coming from mci ready for service. appears orion 7 problems resolved as more being seen in service. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:15:51 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mci guy on Thu Oct 9 09:49:24 2008. As far as I know Yukon will the majority of the new mci's as castleton will be getting their 4315-4329 (re-assigned #'s though)in addition to Yukon 3200's going to Castleton. Main reason being is the heavy workload on the X1-X9. As I said I'm not sure if they found a perm. fix they are testing and moving things around the way it looks no just looks so crappy as their is a steel exhaust line going up through the left rear bumper and all the way up to the roof, they gotta cover it or do something. I will get pics when I go to Yukon next time for a bus move. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Oct 9 01:14:30 2008. I believe thats true as Quill and 126 will be Hybrid by end of 09. I do know Westfarm will be lossing the 400/500's to Quill at system pick time as WestFarm will be getting more CNG's from Gleason, which will be offset by RTS'S that will come from Quill & 126. The MTA wants Bronx/S.I./ Manhattan RTS FREE. I still wonder though the MTA is desperate now for more artics... Espically for Charleston when it open, and KB, G.H. and MTA Bus, and I can't hear anybody speaking about it expect waiting for the Orion X, which I think will be to late & glitchy |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 10:33:21 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008. Wait, did i read that right? RTS's from quill and 126 will go to Jackie gleason depot? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 9 10:34:23 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008. Are you saying that JG is going back to RTS? :-O And what would be the fate of my C40LFs? :-(I would have thought that they'd leave JG alone since it has a balanced roster of few 1995, most 1999 and 2003 buses. JG I would have thought would be the last to get any new deliveries at this point, but also would be the last to get RTSs. Same goes for WF. The CNGs have become such a fixture in certain JG-dominated sections of Brooklyn, as I have been growing up, that to see them go, even if it takes a few more years, will be saddening. I was hoping my C40s would stick around until at least 2015 or so. I hope they don't suffer the same fate as the CNG RTSs that MTA took on from the private companies. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 10:36:27 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 9 10:34:23 2008. I thought the C40LF would go to west farms? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Oct 9 10:43:32 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 9 10:34:23 2008. However, I would expect Gleason to get O5s from MTA Bus, whenever the MCIs do get delivered. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:50:22 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 10:33:21 2008. i said CNG's to westfarm to replace 400/500 orions not sure which CNG's New Flyer or Orion and yes Gleason will need something for a bit of time till other buses arrive. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:50:30 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 18:06:51 2008. Okay, so what about Manhattanville? You mentioned Quill and 126th St. I would bet that Manhattanville would go ALL Hybrid with Queens Village giving up their Hybrids and taking RTS buses in return...which would make sense to me. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:51:55 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:50:30 2008. I agree, as the mTA is on the Hybrid High Now! Manhattanville and MCH and MCH/Amsterdam are rarely mentioned, can't wait for MCH to reopen |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:51:57 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 10:33:21 2008. Why would RTS buses go to an CNG depot. I HIGHLY doubt Jackie Gleason would go backwards like that. West Farms has been like that because it's still practically new. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:54:37 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:51:57 2008. Maybe CNG's from MTA bus will go their, but I'm not sure all I know for sure is the Brookyln will be RTS. and Some of Queens, but even now Grand should have better stuff than it does now, but they get alot of crap also, year their a CMF but still... damn new depot old garbage. Didn't somebody say though once MTA BUS to loose some Hybrids to NYCTA? or did I misread it? |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:55:35 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 9 00:13:33 2008. The ONLY way Jamaica will be getting Hybrids is when they find a NEW depot. The current Jamaica Depot can not hold those Hybrids. Otherwise, you would have seen them on the Q4, Q5 and Q85 already. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 10:59:16 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:15:51 2008. So based on waht you just said here "MTA_SI", Castleton will be moving their 1998-1999 MCI 102-DLW3SS Cruisers out into the other boroughs...more like MTA Bus.I say that because Staten Island is about to get a hell of a lot younger in terms of fleet age. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 11:03:00 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by mta_si on Wed Oct 8 21:50:35 2008. Now do you mean the MTA New York City Transit OR MTA as a whole will be retiring the 1999 NovaBus RTS-06? Also, does that mean that the 1999 NovaBus RTS-06 #4900, 4902-5249 will not be going to MTA Bus (or at least some of them)? |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 11:05:18 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:54:37 2008. MTA Bus was suppose to give up Orion 07.501 Low Floor Hybrid #3770-3783 to Gun Hill. Obviously that did not happen. Also, I heard that when the new MCI came into service, some of not ALL the Orion 05.501 CNGs would be heading to Jackie Gleason and West Farms. That's still not out of the question...yet. Stay tuned! |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 11:06:35 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Thu Oct 9 00:15:10 2008. Actually, I would bet the Orion 05.501 #400s and #500 would be the best bet for Manhattan in terms of fleet age. The #6000s would dominate the Bronx. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 9 11:24:35 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:15:51 2008. LOL...the MCIs are going to have tractor exhausts!Maybe they should go with the truck horns too! :) |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Oct 9 13:02:35 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008. I doubt MJQ would get rid of all their RTS buses. Espectially the '94's. |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 13:14:08 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 11:03:00 2008. I mean NYCTA with the RTS not MTA bus I never get no info on MTA Bus as over here in S.I. MTA Bus is an "outcast!" |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 13:17:29 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 9 11:24:35 2008. Its the most oddest looking thing. Not only is it ugly it must get very hot. I knowitn't stay, but maybe its for testing he heat shield I don't know. Very Odd but MCI has to take the bite on this one, but now with them and their conveneint & timely "chapter 11" well see. I do know though other agencies are getting deliveries as RTA in Rochester just got 5 new MCI's D4505 as did CENTRO in syracuse. Not sure of teir specs though |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 13:19:02 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by The TransitMan on Thu Oct 9 11:05:18 2008. Their CNG's make since to go to Gleason and give all the O7 CNG to WestFarm. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Oct 9 13:51:48 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 13:14:08 2008. MTA Bus is going to takeover everyone. Better start inviting them to your BBQs. |
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Posted by rionOne on Thu Oct 9 14:21:51 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 13:14:08 2008. Outcast?!Keep thinking that as over the next few years your buses start wearing that branding. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Oct 9 15:29:16 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008. Are they planning on sending NGO7's to KB?I figured MJQ would be getting the WF O5s seeing as 424 is been sent there 3 times already |
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Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Thu Oct 9 15:53:18 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 23:55:08 2008. KB has 6002, 6108, 6131, 6224, 6237-6240, 6242-6247, 6249-6251, 6253-6257, 6259-6260, 6262-6270, 6280, 6284, 6292, 6296.GH has 6064-6069, 6071-6077, 6081-6095, 6099-6106, 6109-6111, 6114-6119, 6121, 6124, 6128, 6151-6152, 6154-6155, 6158-6159, 6177, 6198, 6209, 6230-6231. |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 9 16:05:17 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Thu Oct 9 15:53:18 2008. BTW, when are you going to update the roster on your website? |
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Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Thu Oct 9 16:29:11 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by GOLD_12th on Thu Oct 9 16:05:17 2008. The roster is distributed and e-mailed to all curent Urban Transit Club members. It's also available at our monthly meetings for only $1 for non-members, free to current members. I did sent an update for September, but it apparantly was not posted.We have our annual FALL SLIDE AUCTION this Saturday. October is the only meeting that we don't charge a door fee. Contact me if you need directions to our meeting hall. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 9 18:40:15 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by MTA_SI on Thu Oct 9 10:21:01 2008. Wow, I believe you about them wanting Staten Island to be RTS free. The Novas are becoming a rare sight now with all the CAS O5s over at Yukon now. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 9 18:52:26 2008, in response to Re: yukon/castleton updates, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 23:55:08 2008. You're right, I forgot about Gun Hill, but I was actually focusing on the 6200s when I said that. |
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