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Re: Queens Bus Redesign - Total Numbers

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Apr 24 09:07:16 2024, in response to Re: Queens Bus Redesign - Total Numbers, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Tue Apr 23 21:35:25 2024.

How am I not disproving your point? Doesn’t really matter if it’s 20 or 25 percent where my wait is longer. The point is do the people on the bus save more time than the time I lose for it to make sense to eliminate bus stops? The answer is no, when you talk about eliminating lightly utilized bus stops because the MTA’s contention is that an average of 20 seconds per stop is saved for each removed bus stop, but that assumes that every bus stops at every bus stop. In the cases I am speaking about, a lightly utilized bus stop may have only one out of ten buses stopping at these stops to be removed. So in the vast majority of cases, the question is will the bus stop at bus stop A or bus stop B, resulting in longer walks. Not stopping at bus stop A and B on each trip which is the MTA’s assumption.

Specifically for the stop removed we had the MTA count how many people used the stop before it was removed and they told us it was 54 in a 24 hour period when 500 buses were scheduled to stop there and that’s assuming all 54 people used different buses.

The amount of time saved by people on the buses is negligible. Even assuming 20 seconds per bus which is way overestimated because of the above in order to save 5 minutes a bus route has to eliminate 18 bus stops, but more like 30 bus stops. Since the average local bus trip is 2.3 miles, the savings is more like two minutes, about equal to the increased walking time. So eliminating massive amounts of bus stops makes no sense at all. Perhaps 5 percent of bus stops can be removed without any nil effects, not 33 percent.

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