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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by R30A on Sun Jan 22 16:20:26 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jan 22 13:12:17 2017.

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Yet you tried to make them the rule by stating that lowering the speed limit to coincide with signal synchronization would have no affect on reducing the average speed limit.
Never made any such claim.

So now you state that speed limits need to be further lowered and streets need to be redesigned to accommodate lower speed limits. Am I to conclude that the city speed limit needs to be 20 mph for arterials including Ocean Parkway and Queens Boulevard although there wasn't single fatality on Queens Boulevard last year?
Said conclusion does not follow from premise. Never said ALL streets need their speed limits lowered to any specific number such as 20MPH.

And streets with no intersections, parking or pedestrians like Flatbush Avenue south of the Belt Parkway having a speed limit of 30 mph or under? That would just be insane.
Never claimed it should have such.

And if you are wondering why there were no fatalities on Queens Blvd last year, it has nothing to do with the 25 mph speed limit that few abide by. It is due to the fences installed along the medians not allowing jaywalking.
Unsupported assumptions.

"That is why you put in bus lanes! To solve the problem!"
So every street having a bus should have a bus lane. That is your solution. What about streets with only one lane. Your solution I assume would be to eliminate all parking and deliveries on those blocks.

No. Only streets where the traffic is at such a level where it is interfering with bus service. Yes. If such a street is a single lane, both transit mall conversion and rerouting the bus route to a paralell road without such issues should be considered. Deliveries can be made in off hours should the street become a dedicated busway.

"Probably insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bus lanes on the active parts of routes would likely more than make up for this."
You are speaking out of your ass with absolutely no facts or figures.

I make no claims contrary. Yes, this is my assumption. considering the relative amounts of time spent on route vs deadheading, I think it is a fairly safe assumption.

"Again, almost certainly insignificant on a per unit basis."
And why is a per unit basis significant? I am sure Federal Express would be looking at aggregate numbers not a per unit basis. And a consumer would look at extra dollars he spent on everything he purchased that year, and not look at each item separately.

And it would all be small.

Using your logic, one could conclude at raising the fare from $2.75 to $4.00 is insignificant on a per trip basis because it is only a $1.25 difference and that amount buys little these days, not even enough for a weekday New York Times. But most would argue that it would be a significant fare increase.
I would never claim such. There may be a time when it becomes necessary, but such would surely be significant.




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