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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Jan 22 13:12:17 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by R30A on Sat Jan 14 22:54:43 2017.

ME: Not all people speed, then wait at each light resulting in them making the same average speed. They are the exceptions not the rule.

YOU: Nobody said otherwise.

Yet you tried to make them the rule by stating that lowering the speed limit to coincide with signal synchronization would have no affect on reducing the average speed limit.

I already replied to all but the last sentence in your second paragraph.

So now you state that speed limits need to be further lowered and streets need to be redesigned to accommodate lower speed limits. Am I to conclude that the city speed limit needs to be 20 mph for arterials including Ocean Parkway and Queens Boulevard although there wasn't single fatality on Queens Boulevard last year? And streets with no intersections, parking or pedestrians like Flatbush Avenue south of the Belt Parkway having a speed limit of 30 mph or under? That would just be insane. And if you are wondering why there were no fatalities on Queens Blvd last year, it has nothing to do with the 25 mph speed limit that few abide by. It is due to the fences installed along the medians not allowing jaywalking.

"That is why you put in bus lanes! To solve the problem!"

So every street having a bus should have a bus lane. That is your solution. What about streets with only one lane. Your solution I assume would be to eliminate all parking and deliveries on those blocks.

"Probably insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bus lanes on the active parts of routes would likely more than make up for this."

You are speaking out of your ass with absolutely no facts or figures.

"Again, almost certainly insignificant on a per unit basis."

And why is a per unit basis significant? I am sure Federal Express would be looking at aggregate numbers not a per unit basis. And a consumer would look at extra dollars he spent on everything he purchased that year, and not look at each item separately.

Using your logic, one could conclude at raising the fare from $2.75 to $4.00 is insignificant on a per trip basis because it is only a $1.25 difference and that amount buys little these days, not even enough for a weekday New York Times. But most would argue that it would be a significant fare increase.


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