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Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 1 10:44:46 2016, in response to Re: Summary and Video of November 2015 SBS meeting in Woodhaven, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Feb 1 10:01:37 2016. "The busway or rail is intended primarily for long distance north south travel in Queens with greatly reduced travel times. It actually has the possibility of drawing people out of their cars which SBS or BRT (and not even full BRT at that) would do. Travel times to Queens Center would be cut in half to about 15 minutes and it is much more useful than SBS which will take much more time and won't severely negatively affect traffic slowing average speeds to 10 or 15 mph or less."SBS/BRT is intended for longer distance riders. The benefits created by it would spill over to the local buses on Woodhaven as well. Your numbers have no basis in reality. I could just as easily say that SBS will decrease the speed so much that it will only take TWO MINUTES to go from Broad Channel to Queens Boulevard! Sure, that is false, but no more so than your estimates. "If a bus way is incredibly expensive and ridiculous as you claim, a study would show that." If it is so incredibly expensive and ridiculous, no agency would ever put the money into making such a study. Wake me when the MTA does a study. "What are you calling a "simple" project? SBS or BRT? SBS is simple. BRT is not and besides no one has shown there is any added benefit to a project costing ten times as much. That is crucial and necessary before we embark on the more expensive one of the two." SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! SBS=BRT! How do you seriously not understand that by now? The A C and E trains are really slow, but the 8th avenue subway is FAST! "Rail may cost five tines as much but it is much more beneficial with long term advantages such as increasing real estate values and lower operating costs. When you look at the long term costs instead of just the implementation costs, it is more cost efficient which a study would most likely show which is why all alternatives need to b looked at before we commit to a quarter billion dollars and eight years of construction disruption and the lost business to commercial establishment that would cost." Rail is probably not feasible. Only a couple new stations would probably not justify building the line. Especially one which would connect to an incredibly overburdened line at the north end. But even if you did it, Woodhaven SBS would still be a needed project. It serves a different market. "You call the communities ideas dysfunctional when you didn't even hear the ideas they recommended like a zone express bus service instead and a shuttle bus from New Howard Beach to the Howard Beach station among others. So they are definitely not anti transit and know their neighborhood much better than you know it." I am calling the anti transit advocates in the community's ideas dysfunctional, not those of the whole community. Gee... an express bus to Howard Beach... If they really wanted that, they would support the bus lanes!!! |
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