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Explanantion - Re: 1981 News Report: Grumman-Flxible 870 Cracked A-Frame Problems

Posted by WayneJay on Fri May 1 18:30:49 2015, in response to Re: 1981 News Report: Grumman-Flxible 870 Cracked A-Frame Problems, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 1 13:24:24 2015.

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I don't remember exact dates, but remember.... NYCTA pulled the Grummans off the streets twice.

The first time was after cracks were discovered in several buses, and then the one bus where the engine fell to the ground prompted the TA to immediately ground all of the buses. At the time the TA had taken delivery of 637 buses (of a 837-bus order). The DOT privates hadn't rec'd their Grummans yet. At this time CTA, and SCRTD were other large agencies that grounded their Grumman 870s. I think CTA grounded 205 buses, and RTD 230 buses. All Grumman 870s were sent out to be repaired by Grumman. The repairs were to strengthen the A-frames. Grumman also retrofitted the A-frames on buses that had not been delivered. During this time the TA pulled whatever buses they could out of retirement, and they leased the buses from WMATA. The WMATA buses weren't sent back until the TA had enough Grummans back in service, then they were also receiving the remaining 200 buses of that order. So, yes the WMATA buses were still in NYC as Grumman 870s were going back into service.

When the TA pulled the Grummans for good... At this point they had all of them in service plus the 13 that were originally intended for Ave B/E Bway and the demo unit for a total of 851 buses. Since all of these buses were pulled at once. The TA once again had to bring buses out of retirement. They also leased 150 Greyhound MC-8 and used them on Staten Island Express service, obtained a few GMC suburban fishbowls from MSBA (also for SI express service), and they sent 350 GMC fishbowls to Blitz for rebuilding.

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