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Re: MTA presentation: ''Bus Procurement Update'' (July 2013) |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Thu Aug 1 14:26:36 2013, in response to Re: MTA presentation: ''Bus Procurement Update'' (July 2013), posted by LRG5784 on Thu Aug 1 13:53:35 2013. Well, for the record, Orion didn't choose to exit, whether at the right or wrong time. It was Daimler's decision to close Orion (and even Setra*), after seeing that its transit and motorcoach businesses weren't doing really well as compared to their automotive business. It certainly wasn't doing too well if you consider that Orion had roughly 10% market share in the transit bus sector and Setra roughly that or less in the motorcoach sector. In transit buses, New Flyer (and subsidiaries) and Gillig had a combined 60-70% transit bus market share, while MCI and Prevost both have roughly 25% market share IINM in the motorcoach market. Novabus is gaining momentum after its return to the US transit bus market, and Prevost is right up there with MCI. The Volvo Group is doing pretty well, while Daimler (outside of Mercedes Benz) isn't doing so tough.*Setra's an interesting one since they are still being built in Europe and branded as Setra even though Daimler won't be selling the buses, MCI will. I wouldn't call it a closing, but at least it won't be in Daimler's hands entirely. Orion, on the other hand, is a done deal. Quality control issues with the Orion VII NG with two of their largest customers didn't help things, even though the Orion VII 3G was a much better built bus than previous generations. --Dr. C |
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