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Re: MTA Sending Bus Managers To Hear Customer Suggestions

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 27 11:02:42 2012, in response to Re: MTA Sending Bus Managers To Hear Customer Suggestions, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat May 26 20:17:59 2012.

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There are many operational issues they could learn about like which drivers they need to watch because of complaints from other ones, and little things like drivers not pulling tithe curb o drivers not stopping when there is room, etc.

Even if your proposal is cost neutral, they will lie and tell you it will cost extra like they did with one of mine by wrongly measuring the present route. Sometimes they don't even do it on purpose but just because they are sloppy. In my case they neglected to consider the non-revenue miles of the B42 as it makes it's turn around between the last and first stop which was about a quarter-mile in one direction or an eighth of a mile if divided by two to determine route length. That minuscule distance translates into about $125,000 in additional operating costs. Since my proposal to create a branch of the B42 to take Seaview to E108 Street would no longer use that route I subtracted the turn around distance when computing the extra mileage and they didn't. Also my proposed branch had fewer traffic signals so although the distance might have been an eighth of a mile longer, the running time was the same so it was cost neutral. They added the extra eighth of a mile and did not subtract the eighth of a mile from the turnaround they failed to count and concluded my proposal was an extra quarter mile and $250,000 more which wasn't true.

So don't expect them to measure your proposals the way you did. They will find a way to make them cost extra. Only if you propose a cut will they consider it.

Also whenever I made a proposal and stated only 2 persons per trip were needed for cost neutrality, their response was always we can't assume there will be any new riders as a result of the improvement.

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