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Re: its just a little snow!

Posted by r17-6599 on Sun Jan 10 21:05:50 2010, in response to Re: its just a little snow!, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 1 00:46:15 2010.

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Sorry I'm late. You could go on; surprised you haven't. All these things are subject to the factors governing the design/operation of the bus, which in and of itself does not suck. Consider operations outside of the NYCTA realm. Operations where buses DO run on schedule; where passengers pay with coins/ tokens or with a fare card system superior to ours; where a shelter is a shelter.

So your quote, my rebuttal:

"In fact they suck more because they have no trains to ride instead:
Not the fault of the bus, per se.

"buses suck because you usually have to wait outside for them".
How about "el" stations and in general, railroad platforms.

"...they are at the mercy of other surface traffic and thus never run on schedule and are always late"
Yeah, like 'we're being held because of train traffic ahead; we should be moving shortly'.

"they place high g-forces on the riders bodies when they accelerate and stop and turn and there's no good way to hold on usually so it's very uncomfortable"
How about derailments.

"they get stuck in traffic all the time"
All the time? You ride that many buses so often you can make that claim?

"you never know when they are going to come"
Sure; just like the subway always runs on time. They (NYCTA) prints worthless schedules to placate a "dumb" general public.
And we won't even touch Amtrak's 'on time' performance. Notorious! A joke.

"there's no way to buy a metrocard"
Not the fault of m"buses" per se. Not all systems use metrocards and / or have fare collections superior to ours.

"it can be way too hot in there and the windows may be stuck or out of reach"
No such thing as A/C failure on a train. Geeze, get real.

"people don't move to the back..."
They don't move into the car; they hover around doors.

"there's no destination or route signs on the driver's side"
This I'll give you; white books specs was supposed to alleviate this. My argument too.

"the drivers can pretend they don't see you and drive away"
Conductors closing doors in people's faces.


"they splash people standing at the curb, they make you step through puddles and snow to get to them if the driver doesn't pull up to the curb"
Sometimes necessary. Again, do you see each bus on every run, in every city?

"their mirrors can whack people"
Personal experience? Note the plethora of law suits here.

"their motors make the whole back of the bus vibrate uncomfortably"
Sit in the front. Older generations of buses were far worse, yet you spent a heck of a lot of time chasing them. Did you not ride becuase of vibrating engines? Your loss!

"they bunch up - making one bus SRO and another bus virtually empty along the same route at the same time, buses get in other bus's way"
Not at all like standing on the platform and several trains come along except the one we are waiting for. Columbus Circle with three (A) trains and two (B) trains before a solidly packed (D)trundles in. Look again kiddo.

"they don't pull into bus stops when there are several other buses already there, when they are out of service they take up space in bus stops forcing the in-service buses to stop behind them and making the passengers walk further to their destinations"
Operations problems; not a general fault of the medium.

"there's no prominent interior route and destination signs"
I agree there.

With your general disdain of people why are you so concerned about their discomforts? Or are you thinking of yourself? No surprises here.







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