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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:22:19 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. I doubt that I would have deleted it, but I don't blame you for doing so. As bad as losing the video is, it might not be worth the aggravation. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:23:05 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. I doubt that I would have deleted it, but I don't blame you for doing so. As bad as losing the video is, it might not be worth the aggravation. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 16 22:24:26 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Sorry that had to happen, I've only had that problem with New Jersey Transit workers. Why did you delete the video? Did he put his hands on you? |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:24:59 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:23:05 2009. Thanks for your insight. The guy was not being very cordial at all, so I really didn't have a choice. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:26:20 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. What do you want us to say? How the hell can a NYCT worker make you delete footage? Makes no sense.He can get in a lot of trouble for this. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:26:24 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 16 22:24:26 2009. He threatened to have the cops come after me. He also thought I was running away from him, when in fact I was trying to catch the (E) train to Manhattan at the other platform. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:28:30 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:26:20 2009. I don't know, but like I said to other posters, he threatened to bring the cops into the matter. I tried to show him the rules but he was being real hostile. I'm going back to Queens Plaza this week and if I see him again, I'll have the tables turned on him. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:32:53 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:24:59 2009. yes you did. you could've said "I want your pass number and want to speak to your superintendent RIGHT NOW!".i mean, if are serious about pursuing this beyond Subchat.com this is not a dead issue. this guy can be written up on a long list of charges, if your side of the story holds up. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:33:45 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:28:30 2009. read my follow-up. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:35:34 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:32:53 2009. Okay, I'll take that account next time. I'm heading up to Queens Plaza sometime this week just so I can run into this guy again. I should have told a cop at the station but I really didn't know if he would have been in my favor or not. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 16 22:36:10 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Unfortunately, what's done is done. Knowing what I know now, he would've had to get the police as I wouldn't have deleted the video. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:37:20 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 16 22:36:10 2009. I should have probably told a cop about this. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:38:30 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:26:24 2009. If he thought that you were doing something illegal then he should have called the cops. I doubt that what he did is what they tell him to do. He would have had to call the cops to make me delete my video. If he's a mf'er he can try and take it if he wants. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:38:56 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:35:34 2009. he can be in big trouble for this.a cop would only help you, as you'd have a badge number to work with when filing a complaint. was this guy in an ugly uniform, or street clothes? |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:39:39 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:37:20 2009. I wouldn't do that either. Cops are trouble. They caused riots in LA. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:39:45 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Next time, ask for a TSS to respond to the scene. You can try your luck with police supervision as well, but since this was an MTA employee, might as well invite their supervision in ... I'm sure it'd beat having to respond to a BIE for the lucky individual. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:41:23 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:39:45 2009. it might've been a TSS for all we know. they are known to hang out in that location. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:41:23 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:38:56 2009. The guy was from the tower dispatcher office at Queens plaza. He was wearing regular clothes. I'm pretty certain the cops would have helped but they can't now unless I go back and run into the guy again. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:41:32 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Easy on Mon Nov 16 22:38:30 2009. Person was obviously trying to follow what THEY thought the rules are. Calling a Train Service Supervisor (TSS) to the site would permit the proper "reinstruction" to occur. Our "respondent" was trained to call it in, not to confront directly. Reinstruction is obviously required here. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 16 22:41:39 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:37:20 2009. I know you lost some video which is unfortunate. However, I do understand that you may have done so because you didn't want end up on the wrong side of an escalating incident. Sometimes, although you're right, it could be wise to do what's necessary to avoid any trouble. |
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Posted by rr4567 on Mon Nov 16 22:42:55 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Show him the rules again and tell him "good day, sir."No, that'll get you in trouble. Yeah, there are boneheads out there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:43:09 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:41:23 2009. Reinstructing a TSS? Oh goody ... :)I've SEEN the "call it in" bulletin. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:43:12 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 16 22:41:39 2009. Not to mention either, I'm 17, making me, by law, a minor. Therefore, he's in bigger trouble for harassing a minor. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:43:35 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:41:23 2009. run into him again? where is he going to go? if he works for ta, they know who was in the office when this happened. there can only be a short list of suspects. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:44:36 2009, in response to Re: TA personel really need to lighten up!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 16 22:43:35 2009. That's what I mean. He's most likely stationed at Queens Plaza so I'll return there again. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:45:59 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:43:12 2009. That one won't fly ... there IS a bulletin with specific instructions as to how to react to such an "incident" as yours. Hint, you got the wrong answer ... |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:49:24 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:45:59 2009. Still, you don't pull that type of crap with minors. Minors and adults are two different entities. However, there is still a right way as to respond to the situation. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Nov 16 22:52:00 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:26:24 2009. That would have been the easiest situation to avoid. Tell him to go ahead and call the cops while you continue to walk away. Any attempt by a transit worker to stop you is false imprisonment. KaChing!! |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:54:10 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by BMTLines on Mon Nov 16 22:52:00 2009. Thank you, BMT. I'll keep that in mind next time. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:55:00 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:49:24 2009. You're close enough in age that it'd be hard to tell, and you weren't with your parents so I wouldn't bother with that angle. Here's what you need to know so that you can POLITELY challenge the person in question should it happen again. Tell them simply that the rules of conduct SPECIFICALLY allow photography and that if there's a problem, he should call his own supervision and request that a Train Service Supervisor be called down to explain the rules to his satisfaction and that you'll wait. It'll take probably 30-40 minutes for a TSS to get there unless one is there already.Tell him that there's a bulletin on "suspicious activity" and HIS rules state that if "suspicious activity" occurs, he is to contact control and "call it in." The TSS will tell him the same thing and be able to cite the bulletin number which this person has apparently failed to read and comprehend. But once you get snitty or combatitive, you can tell it to the police. Play it right, or don't play it at all. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:56:10 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:55:00 2009. I'll remember that. Thanks. |
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Try Recovering the data! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 16 22:56:54 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Before you save another photo or video to that memory card, try recovering the data.More… |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:56:55 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by BMTLines on Mon Nov 16 22:52:00 2009. Dayum! No *wonder* photogs get appearance tickets. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:58:06 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:56:10 2009. It's the only way to win. You ARE in the right, and when one is in the right, it's really stupid to go into the wrong ... besides ... watching someone who's pissing you off get yelled at can be fun. :) |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:00:04 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 22:58:06 2009. LOL, you're right!And in the end...I'll have the last laugh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 16 23:01:05 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:00:04 2009. Just don't snicker in his FACE ... but yeah ... playing by the rules often has a much happier outcome than any of the alternatives. You just have to KNOW the rules. :) |
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Posted by Clayton on Mon Nov 16 23:19:43 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by BMTLines on Mon Nov 16 22:52:00 2009. I hope you don't look at this hobby as a quick way to sue somebody. AKA playing an offshoot of the "ghetto lottery". |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Nov 16 23:25:56 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Nobody can force you to delete photos or video. If this ever happens again, refuse and advise the employee that you would be more than willing to discuss this matter with a law enforcement official. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:26:36 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Nov 16 23:25:56 2009. I'll definitely take that into consideration. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:27:49 2009, in response to Try Recovering the data!, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Nov 16 22:56:54 2009. I'll look into that. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Mon Nov 16 23:34:12 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Bmt pretty much summed it up......Dare him to call the cops.....the avg response time would be at least 10 minutes......by the time police respond, you would be in another borough....... One thing I would NOT have done is delete the photos or video...... You would be surprised that a lot of ta personnel think it is illegal to take photos down here.....I'd bet more than half believe that...... |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:37:37 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by rtype3995 on Mon Nov 16 23:34:12 2009. I absolutely agree. This is why the TA needs to retrain their staff when it comes down to photography in the subway. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 16 23:37:55 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. Was he silly enough to be wearing his badge that said "I am the tower dispatcher at Queens Plaza"? Your recap of the alleged event certainly does not ring as accurate. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:39:53 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 16 23:37:55 2009. I don't even think he was wearing his badge. I didn't survey his clothes except he wasn't in uniform. He was wearing jeans and either a white or gray polo. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 16 23:40:22 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. E-mail me with a description of said employee. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:01:12 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. I don't recall many of your past posts, but do you have a history of lying on these forums? I had a feeling what you posted was odd. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:01:31 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 23:39:53 2009. So then that begs the questions,How did you know that he was a tower dispatcher? How did you know that he was a transit employee? Why didn't you ask for him to identify himself? Why didn't you explain that you believe that you were in full compliance with the "Rules of Conduct." |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:03:33 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 16 23:40:22 2009. Easy, guy. Your actions could be misconstrued. It's not within your job description to conduct an investigation. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:06:22 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:01:12 2009. What?! I've only been here for a month. And don't worry, I speak the truth. |
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