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      <title>Re: OPTO fail on the CTA (The Flxible Neofan)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by The Flxible Neofan on 11/20/2009 8:03:25 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;CTA trains are so small, though...I don&apos;t think that a conductor is the answer.  However, the focus should be on the door interlocks (and not just the rubber edges).  I don&apos;t think trains are supposed to be able to move with their doors open, are they?

Scratch that (I recall that after an MFL train I rode had a door that couldn&apos;t close after a station stop, we had to get off the train before the operator drove it away). Shouldn&apos;t there be an alert in the operator&apos;s cab that a door in the train was not closed?  Isn&apos;t that type of technology commonplace now?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 01:03:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Northbound platform at Cortlandt St on the R/W lines reopens on Wednedsay, November 25th. (shiznit1987)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=861814</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by shiznit1987 on 11/20/2009 8:02:34 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice. Now getting out to Astoria from PATH will be that much easier. 

I wonder how convenient they&apos;ll make this to the path anyway?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 01:02:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>VIDEO : Think FAST!!!!! (Train Man Paul : Metro-North&lt;q&gt;s Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!!)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=861813</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North&lt;q&gt;s Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on 11/20/2009 8:00:07 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;THINK FAST, FOLKS!!!!!!!
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Now, THIS I wish I was on the head end of!!!! TGV @ 357 MPH!!
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Suddenly, the Northeast Corridor doesn&apos;t seem so fast anymore!!! 


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      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 01:00:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: R-160  9632 / R-32 B train (The Flxible Neofan)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by The Flxible Neofan on 11/20/2009 7:58:24 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ouch.

How many R32s are left?  Are they attainable on weekends?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:58:24 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>OPTO fail on the CTA (SelkirkTMO)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by SelkirkTMO on 11/20/2009 7:57:07 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;B&gt;Chicago subway union cites conductor need&lt;/B&gt;

CHICAGO - The CTA should bring back conductors on Red Line trains as a safety measure or remove all trains from service for inspections until the problem of open doors on moving trains is solved, a transit union leader told the Chicago Tribune.

The call for drastic action was issued by Robert Kelly, president of Local 308 of the Amalgamated Transit Union, based on two recent incidents.

In one a toddler in a stroller apparently became caught in train doors on Nov. 2 at the Morse station on the Red Line. The child was flung trackside, but she suffered only minor injuries.

Then on Sunday, passengers reported that one set of doors failed to close on a Red Line train as it traveled from the Addison station to the Sheridan stop, according to the CTA. No injuries were reported.

Both incidents are under investigation.

&quot;We&apos;ve dodged a bullet,&quot; Kelly said in reference to nobody being killed or seriously injured in either incident. &quot;But we have a door problem here because with the doors open, the trains should not have been allowed to move.

&quot;And those trains moved at full speed, so it&apos;s obvious that the fail-safe (mechanism) is not fail-safe.&quot;

CTA officials responded by saying problems with trains&apos; sensitive door edges, which determine whether a door stays shut or pops open, are relatively uncommon, and there is no systemic issue that should worry riders.

&quot;Every side door in CTA&apos;s rail car fleet has a sensitive rubber edge that has been problematic in the past,&quot; CTA spokeswoman Sheila Gregory said. &quot;However, all sensitive door edges were replaced in 2008 with a more reliable design. Over the past eight months, sensitive door-edge issues accounted for only 3 percent of total rail car problems.&quot;

In the second incident on Sunday, an off-duty CTA train operator witnessed the open door on the moving train, according to riders and the CTA. The off-duty employee was violating policy by riding inside the enclosed cab and talking on his cell phone, Gregory said.

The trains involved in both events are the CTA&apos;s 2600 series cars, which are some of the oldest in the fleet, averaging about 25 years old. The 2600 series trains also represent about half the cars in the CTA system, operating on the Red, Blue, Pink and Purple lines.

CTA officials initially said the doors on the Red Line train at Morse appeared to function properly. When tested after the accident, the doors bounced open in response to pressure placed on the edges.

But Chicago police and CTA President Richard Rodriguez later said the account related by the toddler&apos;s mother appeared credible. Traces of paint on the stroller and a scratch on a CTA guardrail supported the mother&apos;s story that the stroller became caught in the doors and dragged by the train pulling out of the station, officials said.

The train operator is on unpaid suspension. She said she did not see the stroller when she visually checked before departing the Morse station, union officials said.

Kelly said human error by the train operator was not likely. He insisted some unidentified flaw in the safety mechanisms are failing to prevent trains with open doors from moving.

He called for a return to two-person operations -- a rail motorman and a conductor whose duties include operating the doors. The CTA phased out conductors in the early 1990s in a cost-cutting move that officials said did not compromise safety.

The transit agency has no intention to bring back conductors, Gregory said, adding that the shift to one-person train crews is saving the cash-strapped transit agency about $19 million a year.

(This item appeared Nov. 19, 2009, in the Chicago Tribune.)</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:57:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bad Luck With The R32 (B) Train (arnine)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=861810</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by arnine on 11/20/2009 7:55:35 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is why I thought so why spend that kinda $ &amp; effort in a retiring train set. I love the R32&apos;s but at this point the only ones deserving a spruce up are the ones going to the TM fleet.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:55:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: VIDEO : Never try to beat a train!! (arnine)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by arnine on 11/20/2009 7:54:05 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;The second one was worse:(</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:54:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: VIDEOS : Never try to beat a train!! Some powerful examples!! (bklynsubwaybob)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=861808</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by bklynsubwaybob on 11/20/2009 7:52:11 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you don&apos;t get it after watching those videos you never will.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:52:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: VIDEOS : Never try to beat a train!! Some powerful examples!! (arnine)</title>
      <link>http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=861807</link>
      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by arnine on 11/20/2009 7:51:02 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow, never cross a gate. Why r folks so impatient?</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:51:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bad Luck With The R32 (B) Train (R160 8818)</title>
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      <description>&lt;b&gt;Posted by R160 8818 on 11/20/2009 7:48:06 PM EST&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;They will retire that R32 in the coming months. They can just send an R160 over from Jamaica (one that CI formerly had) to do the trick.</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21  Nov 2009 00:48:06 GMT</pubDate>
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