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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 13 23:46:59 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 12 23:32:14 2017.

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"So if the conductor demands $10 million, you're obliged to pay $10 million and then go to commuter relations to ask for it back?"

You're overcomplicating this:
Conductor..."That will be $10 million dollars in onboard service charge & penalty.
Passenger..."Im sorry, I can't pay you. I usually don't carry around that kind of cash"
Conductor..."Ok, show me some ID, fill out this form & send a bank check for $10 million dollars to Passenger Revenue Accounting within ten days. Remember, 10 days or we'll send you a second notice!"
Passenger..."OK Gee Thanks!!

Everybody goes home, nobody arrested, no train delay, bill gets torn up, life goes on.
See...very simple!

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 14 00:08:39 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 13 23:46:59 2017.

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Conductor..."That will be $10 million dollars in onboard service charge & penalty.
Passenger..."Im sorry, I can't pay you. I usually don't carry around that kind of cash"
Conductor..."Ok, show me some ID, fill out this form & send a bank check for $10 million dollars to Passenger Revenue Accounting within ten days. Remember, 10 days or we'll send you a second notice!"
Passenger..."OK Gee Thanks!!


But if the passenger instead declares: "$10 million? That's patently absurd!" then it's theft of service?

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 00:56:21 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 13 20:24:47 2017.

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Don't keep feeding the troll. He goes away when you ignore him.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Michael549 on Mon Aug 14 03:13:13 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 13 23:46:59 2017.

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"So if the conductor demands $10 million . . . "

Let's see in San Francesco they are selling steak sandwiches for $500 bucks apiece, Trump's trying to sell the White House to his Russian bankers, and ...

WOW!!

We already pay for bottled water, soon we will have to pay for bottled air ..., sex stopped being free a long time ago ... now they want to put identity computer chips inside everyone's body ...

At least my billionaire baseball players will make the playoffs ... Oh, Damn!

SMILE,

Mike



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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 07:49:45 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Michael549 on Mon Aug 14 03:13:13 2017.

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Trump's trying to sell the White House to his Russian bankers

Aside from that being BS, we have an "OTChat" for that kind of stuff. Pirmann perhaps needed an OTTalk, and maybe then Subchat would never have outlasted Subtalk.

sex stopped being free a long time ago

Are you one of those anti-family hippies?

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 07:50:24 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 13 23:46:59 2017.

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You're overcomplicating this

No; he's trolling.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 14 11:23:50 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 07:49:45 2017.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 14 12:41:26 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 07:50:24 2017.

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Understood. I consider myself a part timer in these parts in terms of jumping in with both feet on a now far too long thread. I still have to decifer the difference between trolling & serious dialogue. Between knowing when to hold 'em & know when to fold'em sorta speak. A flaw in my subchat particapation I freely admit

But I'm learning

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 14 13:03:37 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 14 11:23:50 2017.

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Smartest thing you've ever said

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 14 13:24:34 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 14 12:41:26 2017.

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Here's a hint: Olog is always trolling. He never posts serious dialogue.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 14 14:03:29 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 14 13:03:37 2017.

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Looks that way.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 14 14:21:09 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 13 21:58:30 2017.

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How about a bar with a "two drink minimum?"

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 14 15:10:12 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 14 14:21:09 2017.

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How about a bar with a "two drink minimum?"

Exactly! The same principle applies— if you leave sober, you can't be arrested for public drunkenness or for "stealing" two drinks you never ordered or consumed.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 14 15:15:24 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 14 15:10:12 2017.

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No, but you can be arrested for trespassing on the pub owner's property.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 14 15:18:35 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 14 15:15:24 2017.

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Not unless you're ordered to leave or banned from entering.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 18:25:58 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Italianstallion on Sat Aug 12 13:03:03 2017.

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This may be a necropost at this point, but I have officially confirmed two things.

(1) If you are at Grand Central buying a ticket from GCT-Fordham, the ticket machines list Fordham as a Harlem and New Haven stop. If you are at Grand Central buying a ticket from GCT-125, the machines list 125 as a stop on all three lines.

(2) When a northbound New Haven train stopped at 125th, the automated system on board proceeded to make the following announcement:

This station is Harlem 125th Street.
This is the train to Stamford.
The next station is Fordham.


The sole purpose of such an announcement is to alert northbound passengers for 125th and Fordham of their stations. If there were no passengers bound for those stations, such an announcement would be unnecessary.

As such, I think we can definitively conclude that it is not a violation of any MTA rule to ride a New Haven train within New York City.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Aug 21 18:59:25 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 18:25:58 2017.

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You can make no such conclusion from your evidence.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 23:33:35 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by italianstallion on Mon Aug 21 18:59:25 2017.

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Considering that your evidence consists entirely of a letter printed in a timetable few people look at in detail, my evidence is pretty much definitive.

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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 22 02:49:21 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 23:33:35 2017.

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His evidence also consists of the posted stations at the track at GCT (MVE is the first one) and the human announcements at GCT over the main loudspeakers ("the x:xx Stamford local, first stop Mount Vernon East, is departing from track yy") and on the train before it leaves ("this train stops at Mount Vernon East, Pelham, New Rochelle, ...").



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Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Aug 22 15:14:43 2017, in response to Re: On-Duty Metro-North Conductor Arrested, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 22 02:49:21 2017.

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Thank you.

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